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Where Does That Sound Come From? (Meta)

· By benchen71 · Published 2023-08-22T06:00:36.775Z

Meta Prompt
The answer to the meta is a 5-syllable word
I think I've given you enough to get you to the meta answer. This is either a "week 2" or a "week 4" and so I've run it as a "week 4" in a month with a "week 5" just in case. The answer to the meta is a 5-syllable word. Answer & explanation: https://www.xword-muggles.com/viewtopic.php?p=140175#p140175
And let's do the prize thing once more! The randomly-drawn name will win a MOAT Music Meta Pack (see here: https://www.ephesusscroll.com/about/interest4.html) valued at $US10.
Check out "The MOAT Mini Pack of Marching Bands" here: https://www.ephesusscroll.com/about/interest4.html. US$5 gets you 7 Marching Bands which, hard enough on their own, now contain metas too. And once again there's a mega-meta!
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  • Dow Jones 3s · 2023-08-22T06:56:31.739Z
    "Sounds like" puzzles are usually hard for me. A good grid made this a smooth meta !! Well done, Ben
    • benchen71 constructor · 2023-08-22T06:59:07.370Z
      Hopefully that makes it more "week 2" than "week 4"!
    • Laura M 🤓8:01 · 2023-08-22T07:28:35.977Z
      Not familiar with this word, almost thought it had to be etymology but I couldn't justify the M sound! Nice grid and fun puzzle!
      • merlinnimue 🤓9:33 · 2023-08-22T13:29:47.176Z
        i seeed to have the sae train of thought... once i realized that sybol was an unjust assuption, i decided to try (and learn) soething new!
        thanks ben for another aazing puzzle
        • DrTom 4s · 2023-08-22T20:21:12.376Z
          at first I did not know what you eant, but then the pattern eerged! But of course what you have to ask your self is whi!
          • benchen71 constructor · 2023-08-22T22:56:59.333Z
            I absolutely love this coent!
          • Tyrpmom 2s · 2023-08-23T18:04:07.949Z
            Now I feel extra dub.
          • ChrisCross 🤓6:39 · 2023-08-22T13:02:28.073Z
            I’m also not good at sound puzzles, but I think your calling attention to the syllables helped a lot
            • benchen71 constructor · 2023-08-22T22:57:30.371Z
              Sound puzzles are always risky. This one has the added difficulty of syllable-parsing, too!
            • SamKat9 🤓12:25 · 2023-08-22T14:02:43.440Z
              Nice puzzle, I enjoyed it!
              • lbray53 35s · 2023-08-22T14:25:55.279Z
                I should have paid closer attention to the details and relied less on my assumption of what the word was. Caused me to have to guess twice!
                • Capn Rick 🤓5:33 · 2023-08-22T15:39:55.240Z
                  Nice "sounds like" puzzle, Ben! The numbers in parentheses helped make this one more like a Level 2.
                  • benchen71 constructor · 2023-08-22T22:58:20.093Z
                    That's what I was hoping for. That said, I'm not sure it would have been solveable without them! How would you know which syllable to pick?
                  • kurtalert 🤓5:07 · 2023-08-22T17:14:29.835Z
                    Fantastic! I kept trying every iteration of etymology (etymologies, etymologist, etc) before I was like, wait a second... there's no M... is there actually another word just like it, that has an extremely similar meaning? Apparently yes! Who knew!
                    • benchen71 constructor · 2023-08-22T22:59:19.340Z
                      I am rapidly discovering that this word is far less well known than I thought!
                    • ReB 3s · 2023-08-22T18:36:18.508Z
                      What's there to say: the bread crumbs (esp the clue to 41A) formed a trail that I was able to follow without falling into a rabbit hole. The four themers (not counting 41A) were a mouthful (and it was neat that they were all 5 syllables long - along with the answer): 63A was new to me. Tightly constructed and enjoyable. Hopefully you'll reveal the ETIOLOGY of this meta in your reveal....
                      • imontoo 3s · 2023-08-22T19:01:57.384Z
                        Entertaining and educational! Nice job, Ben!
                        • I K Snamhcok 9s · 2023-08-22T19:38:27.135Z
                          I mixed syllables in quite a few ways before finally hitting on ETIOLOGY. Fun!
                          • MatthewL 🤓7:47 · 2023-08-22T22:22:10.519Z
                            Well, I was sure it was ETYMOLOGY, and when that proved wrong, I had no idea where to go next. So I put it aside and came back to it just now, and tried again, and this time got the correct answer. I usually am horrible at these sound ones, but this one was fairly straightforward (once you pronounce things correctly). Nice one, Ben!
                            • benchen71 constructor · 2023-08-22T23:00:29.954Z
                              Metas that rely on sound are always risky! Glad you got there in the end.
                            • woozy 🤓14:26 · 2023-08-22T22:40:13.615Z
                              So... do people say
                              Ma-jist-air-i-a
                              Or ma-gee-stair-ee-a?
                              I definitely do the former. Tried etiologist about three times. Did try etymology and evtilogy and others but never got the right combination apparently.
                              I'm glad been finally came down to let me in.
                              • benchen71 constructor · 2023-08-23T00:26:02.025Z
                                Syllable-parsing is not an exact science, no matter what the linguists say. My working hypothesis is that, in English, syllables usually start with a consonant and end with a vowel. As such, my pronunciation is as follows: MA-JI-STARE-EE-AH (where STARE is pronounced without a final R sound). So, yes, that means changing JI to GEE in the meta answer!
                                • benchen71 constructor · 2023-08-23T00:29:05.810Z
                                  And right after posting, I realised I left off the R. So here's the clearer pronunciation: MA-JI-STAIR-REE-AH (where STAIR is pronounced the Aussie way without a final R sound).
                                  • boharr 10s · 2023-08-23T16:24:37.240Z
                                    Inexact science, indeed. Nowhere I looked (admittedly, I did not spend hours searching; just a few web sites) parsed the word with GEE as the second syllable. So I, like others, first went with etymology, a logical answer. When that was marked wrong, I backsolved to get the disease-related word.
                                • Berto 🤓4:34 · 2023-08-23T01:04:02.212Z
                                  Did NOT know this word, and like many others assumed etymology/gist - but finally found the right sound! Thanks Ben!
                                  • HeadinHome 🤓3:57 · 2023-08-23T02:41:20.600Z
                                    Joining the crowd that tried ETYMOLOGY first (though there was no M in sight) — new word for me, and fitting! I learned (way back in the early ‘70s to divide syllables by clipping out the short vowels with their start and end sounds first, and long vowels were often by themselves as a syllable or maybe with a starting consonant. And of course one-syllable prefixes and suffixes (re-, de-, -ment, etc.) stay in tact. So, CON-so-nant. But it seems like many words are just arbitrarily divided up… mag-is-TER-i-um? Mag-i-STER-i-um? Whatever … we got there!
                                    • Philip Chow 8:23 · 2023-08-23T02:58:10.314Z
                                      pronunciation puzzles can be tricky... i was pronouncing the "e" in evaluative like "uh" and the "ty" in ambiguity like "dee"... so i tried audiology and ideology first... tried etymology as well too... i was convinced it was audiology because of its association with sound... not familiar with the meta word so had to google for it - lovely puzzle thank you :)
                                      • KayW 🤓7:59 · 2023-08-23T21:13:35.018Z
                                        Fun one - thanks, Ben!Ha. I got hung up on ETYMOLOGY (where'd that M sound come from? I dunno. I pulled it out of... soMewhere) and tried to enter at least a half dozen variations on that first.
                                        • ajk 6:58 · 2023-08-24T17:47:10.969Z
                                          Got there in the end, despite being terrible at this kind of meta. Didn't help that I forgot about the parenthetical numbers for a couple of days. :)
                                          • Ergcat 🤓13:27 · 2023-08-24T21:21:11.650Z
                                            Finally!!! Putting sounds in grid order helped!
                                            1A
                                            Lobster eaters' wear
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                                            Across
                                            1. 1A
                                              Lobster eaters' wear
                                            2. 5A
                                              In addition
                                            3. 9A
                                              "This meta is definitely solvable or I'll eat ___!"
                                            4. 14A
                                              Car-racing org. with headquarters in Speedway, IN
                                            5. 15A
                                              "Your word is a ___ for my feet, a light on my path." (Ps. 119:105)
                                            6. 16A
                                              Author Norman Vincent ___
                                            7. 17A
                                              Mount from which Moses saw the Promised Land (cf. Deut. 34:1)
                                            8. 18A
                                              Involving calculating the quality, importance, amount, or value of something (1)
                                            9. 20A
                                              Pachelbel's Canon is in it
                                            10. 22A
                                              "Oh, so that's what those numbers in brackets mean!"
                                            11. 23A
                                              Abbr. in calculus that usually has a right-pointing arrow underneath it
                                            12. 24A
                                              Quality of being open to more than one interpretation (5)
                                            13. 27A
                                              Taxpayer IDs
                                            14. 28A
                                              "I definitely regret accidentally hitting my finger with this hammer!"
                                            15. 29A
                                              "A mouse!"
                                            16. 31A
                                              "You really shouldn't have done that!"
                                            17. 34A
                                              Loan adjustment, briefly
                                            18. 35A
                                              "The ___ Cut" (alternate version of DC's "Justice League")
                                            19. 39A
                                              First programmable, electronic, general-purpose digital computer, for short (and also actor Michael ___ in reverse)
                                            20. 41A
                                              Proportion you have if you were only missing the third in a set of five and then you find it here
                                            21. 43A
                                              Misgivings
                                            22. 44A
                                              Pre-owned
                                            23. 46A
                                              Canadian athletic apparel company, ___lemon
                                            24. 48A
                                              ___-relief sculpture
                                            25. 49A
                                              Prefix with cycle (and force for any "Legend of Zelda" fans out there!)
                                            26. 50A
                                              Hypnotist's command
                                            27. 52A
                                              Six-pack units
                                            28. 55A
                                              Newly coined word or expression (3)
                                            29. 59A
                                              ___ standstill (not going anywhere)
                                            30. 60A
                                              Red bit on some Levi jeans
                                            31. 61A
                                              Hay-fever cause
                                            32. 63A
                                              The M in NOMA, the view advocated by Stephen Jay Gould that science and religion each represent different areas of inquiry (2)
                                            33. 67A
                                              Lot in life
                                            34. 68A
                                              Clothing label the devil likes to wear, apparently
                                            35. 69A
                                              Laugh heartily
                                            36. 70A
                                              Barely manages, with "out"
                                            37. 71A
                                              Indian instrument played by singer-songwriter Roger Jaeger
                                            38. 72A
                                              Take care of
                                            39. 73A
                                              Do nothing
                                            Down
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                                              Bed that comes in upper and lower varieties
                                            2. 2D
                                              "___ little silhouetto of a man" (Queen lyric)
                                            3. 3D
                                              Pseudonym in a famous surrogacy case
                                            4. 4D
                                              Mystery-solving dog, ___ Doo
                                            5. 5D
                                              Person to whom a promise is made
                                            6. 6D
                                              Loo in London
                                            7. 7D
                                              Maya Hawke's mom's first name (just trying to get away from a "Kill Bill" or "Pulp Fiction" reference!)
                                            8. 8D
                                              What comes after a water balloon is thrown
                                            9. 9D
                                              Movie-rating org.
                                            10. 10D
                                              "Are we there ___?"
                                            11. 11D
                                              Signals a cab
                                            12. 12D
                                              Troublemaking cartoon chipmunk
                                            13. 13D
                                              Swarms (with)
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                                              Hesitant words of assent
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                                              More ferocious
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                                              Tucson campus, familiarly
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                                              Insistent comeback
                                            18. 27D
                                              Scottish isle
                                            19. 30D
                                              Really hot, in slang or Spanish
                                            20. 31D
                                              Decimal base
                                            21. 32D
                                              ___-Cat (winter vehicle)
                                            22. 33D
                                              Hobbyist's purchase
                                            23. 36D
                                              Gesture in which a person drops their head into the bent crook of a slanted, upwardly angled arm, while raising the opposite arm out straight in a parallel direction
                                            24. 37D
                                              Notable period of time
                                            25. 38D
                                              Blog feed letters
                                            26. 40D
                                              Colony-dwelling insects
                                            27. 42D
                                              Break in the action
                                            28. 45D
                                              Be victorious in
                                            29. 47D
                                              Spotted wildcat
                                            30. 51D
                                              Steal
                                            31. 52D
                                              Places to pitch tents
                                            32. 53D
                                              Video-game pioneer responsible for "Pong"
                                            33. 54D
                                              Pester persistently
                                            34. 56D
                                              Film critic Roger ___
                                            35. 57D
                                              Satisfy, as thirst
                                            36. 58D
                                              Doles (out)
                                            37. 60D
                                              Peter the Great, for one
                                            38. 62D
                                              Bird's construction
                                            39. 64D
                                              Gilbert & Sullivan princess
                                            40. 65D
                                              Caviar
                                            41. 66D
                                              Actor ___ McKellen
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