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When In Rome... (Meta)

· By benchen71 · Published 2023-12-05T05:00:34.519Z

Meta Prompt
The answer to the meta is an appropriate book of the Bible
This puzzle is a milestone of sorts. See if you can work out what it is! The answer to the meta is an appropriate book of the Bible (but with "Rome" in the puzzle title, let me assure you that it isn't "Romans"!) Answer & explanation: https://xword-muggles.com/viewtopic.php?p=150179#p150179
Check out "The MOAT MEOW Mashup Pack" here: https://www.ephesusscroll.com/about/interest4.html. US$10 gives you access to 14 metas that don't always abide by the "rules" of the game. You won't quite know what to expect: asymmetry, 2-letter words, uncrossed letters, sometimes all of those, and sometimes none! One thing is for sure, these are some of the more creative metas my brain has been able to come up with. And there's more: this time there's a mega-meta!
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  • Darth 🤓7:12 · 2023-12-05T05:22:35.656Z
    I'm still trying to figure out how it all ties in, but I saw something repeated. Congrats on your milestone, Ben!
    • benchen71 constructor · 2023-12-05T06:03:23.491Z
      This was the 150th meta I constructed! I tried to make it the 150th meta I released too, but the surprise Gaffney has knocked it to 151. :D
      • woozy 10:14 · 2023-12-05T17:21:56.690Z
        Well, Rome = roman numerals, and 150 puzzle. But why was the actual answer and the theme of biblical books chosen? (Not that we need a reason)
        • benchen71 constructor · 2023-12-05T20:14:59.193Z
          The book of Psalms has 150 chapters.
      • Hector 🤓6:55 · 2023-12-05T05:52:42.322Z
        🏛️!
        • markhr 🤓7:49 · 2023-12-05T07:05:28.120Z
          Moat crossed. Your 150th puzzle, I guess? As prolific as you are, it's possible.
          • benchen71 constructor · 2023-12-05T07:53:55.964Z
            Yes, indeed: 150th meta constructed; 151st released!
          • boharr 2s · 2023-12-05T14:56:09.034Z
            Congrats and thanks.
            • hoover 3s · 2023-12-05T16:01:30.332Z
              I saw the CLs and wrote down all the CL words. They're all followed by vowels, and AOOAAU doesn't spell anything. No Bible book starts with CL, but Ecclesiastes and 1&2 Chronicles contain CL. Nope. Well, is there a significant 150 in the Bible? Yeah, it's in Genesis. Nope. Well, how about we just go for Numbers? Nope. Wait. Didn't Benchen say something last week about always pointing back to the clues? Hey, lookie there. Congrats on #150 (or 151)!
              • SamKat9 🤓11:13 · 2023-12-05T16:42:04.538Z
                Lots of wrong guesses before I noticed the CLs. Congrats on constructing your 150th meta, Ben!
                • benchen71 constructor · 2023-12-05T20:17:08.204Z
                  They are the only Cs and Ls in the grid, too.
                • woozy 10:14 · 2023-12-05T17:16:33.493Z
                  Third time this week a puzzles been difficult because it is easy "P... S ... A.... , well, that's not going to get anywhere..."
                  Good puzzle and congratulations on the milestone.
                  • benchen71 constructor · 2023-12-06T04:23:20.035Z
                    Thanks, woozy!
                  • DrTom 3s · 2023-12-05T17:42:01.927Z
                    A milestone indeed! I was trying to determine how CLUE related while standing in the crease and waiting for a bowled ball to knock my wicket off when it hit me, 150. Then I remembered that I already knew that but forgot. I’m sure you are willing to forfeit the 150 released for a MGWCC. Either way sir, my congratulations!
                    • benchen71 constructor · 2023-12-06T04:22:40.458Z
                      Thanks, Tom!
                      • ajk 7:53 · 2023-12-07T01:41:38.259Z
                        I'm always excited when my knowledge of cricket comes into play. Maybe I'll do one based on all the position names. 🤣🤣🤣 (j/k that would be...unPOPULAR)
                        • DrTom 3s · 2023-12-07T04:03:44.471Z
                          Oh you are barking up the wrong tree there Alan!
                          • benchen71 constructor · 2023-12-07T04:10:46.578Z
                            I've always been partial to "silly mid on"! :D
                            • ajk 7:53 · 2023-12-07T16:04:36.151Z
                              😂 that is a rather good one
                        • KayW 🤓6:39 · 2023-12-05T21:51:48.913Z
                          Wow!! Happy Sesquicentennial Meta! Thanks for all those puzzles!
                          • benchen71 constructor · 2023-12-06T04:22:33.020Z
                            You're very welcome! :D
                          • whimsy 🤓8:38 · 2023-12-06T03:53:33.407Z
                            I actually went back and counted up the number of MOATS and it seemed to come to about 120-ish. I figured Roman numerals but got stuck with no X's in the grid. Well, what are other letters used in Roman numerals -- besides the C -- hey, look at all those CL's! How could I forget that you've done plenty of puzzles (somewhere upwards of 2 dozen if I've got the math right!) for some of the other threads?! Congrats and thanks, Ben!
                            • benchen71 constructor · 2023-12-06T04:22:22.618Z
                              In addition to a couple of MMMs, quite a number of MEOWs, and now 2 Gaffneys (!), there was also the second MOAT pack which had 12 puzzles in it. And lots more to come!
                            • merlinnimue 🤓7:26 · 2023-12-06T05:16:58.887Z
                              congratulations and thanks for 150 genius-level puzzles... sorry you had to deal with me for some of that time... here's to many more -- puzzles, that is, not me and my inanity
                              • Qmark 4s · 2023-12-06T13:18:11.290Z
                                Congrats on meta 150, Ben!
                                • Sharkicicles 1s · 2023-12-06T19:10:14.209Z
                                  Until reading the comments here I hadn’t even noticed the clues… just went with the answer because they were the only CLs (and as far as I could tell the only multi-letter numerals) in the grid. Sneaky!
                                  Congrats on 150, here’s to 150 more!
                                  • benchen71 constructor · 2023-12-06T20:00:56.777Z
                                    My initial impulse when constructing this one was simply to have the repeated CLs in the grid be the only meta information. However at the cluing stage I thought I should also include the answer letters in the clues. I'm glad I did! Lots more puzzles to come, too. :D
                                  • Carolyn 3s · 2023-12-07T00:11:27.716Z
                                    Finally saw what I was supposed to see! Good one!
                                    • ajk 7:53 · 2023-12-07T01:40:37.981Z
                                      Congrats on 150! Very fun. I was stumped for a bit yesterday, but just looking at it again this evening the CLs jumped out once I thought again about how to interpret 61A. Took a few more beats to look at the clue letters (despite the hint), but eventually got there. :)
                                      • Laura M 🤓7:45 · 2023-12-07T02:00:58.495Z
                                        Excellent! Congrats on 150+ great metas!
                                        • MatthewL 🤓7:10 · 2023-12-07T16:06:00.054Z
                                          Finally got it, but needed some help to see the obvious. Nice one, Ben! And congrats on the milestone! Here's to 150 more.
                                          • HeadinHome 🤓1:25 · 2023-12-07T17:56:05.627Z
                                            I’m SURE I had submitted Psalms about 12 guesses back… must have gotten spell-corrected to something else and I didn’t notice. To be fair, it was a WAG anyway, along with EPHESIANS and some other Greco-Roman-related places, plus your Ephesus scroll thingy; JOB (Romans work! Build roads? No?); REVELATION because there were a lot of entries that suggested attire and I wondered if they removed their attire as the Greeks did, when fighting/running; JUDGES because of the Roman judicial system; ACTS because of the theatres… Yes okay I was grasping at straws. Dr.Tom finally nudges me to see all the CL, and I immediately thought of Psalms because there are 150 of them… but I’ll read the questions here to see if there is a relation to Rome other than the roman numeral thing. Sheesh… these easy ones are often the hardest ones!!
                                            • HeadinHome 🤓1:25 · 2023-12-07T18:08:50.069Z
                                              Also - TOTO/TORO, TEAM/TEEM, OTHER/ETHER is all coincidence?? So disappointing…. ( :
                                              • HeadinHome 🤓1:25 · 2023-12-07T18:04:28.601Z
                                                Ohhhh… yes NOW I see… the clues to all the CL words start with the letters of PSALMS duh. Well praise the Lord (with trumpet sound).
                                                • benchen71 constructor · 2023-12-07T22:46:59.243Z
                                                  Glad you got there in the end!
                                                • Capn Rick 7:44 · 2023-12-07T20:14:59.550Z
                                                  Very nice, Ben! And congrats on your 150 milestone. Whew, that's a lotta metas!
                                                  • Philip Chow 8:20 · 2023-12-08T12:37:12.892Z
                                                    I used every single nudge 😂😂😂… I overcomplicated things… so many rabbit holes: four clues have bible books in them: Job, Joel, Peter, John… the answers to those clues didn’t spell anything but their last letters spelled “STAR”… thought I was on to something… then I wrote out those four entries and deleted all instances of the letters in ROMANS and almost got “eighth”… then I went to the nudges and still overcomplicated things… the clue for CLOTHING also satisfies the entry HEART… Congrats on 150(+1)!
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                                                    New York baseballers
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                                                    Across
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                                                      New York baseballers
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                                                      "None of the above" choice
                                                    3. 10A
                                                      Plaudit with one's hands
                                                    4. 14A
                                                      Langston Hughes poem
                                                    5. 15A
                                                      Skint
                                                    6. 16A
                                                      Computer function that maps data of arbitrary size to fixed-size values
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                                                      Bollywood costume
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                                                      Ladder steps
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                                                      Job safety org.
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                                                      Suit, for example
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                                                      Sculpture subjects
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                                                      Tech whiz
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                                                      Learned
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                                                      Apia resident
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                                                      Anatomical blockages
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                                                      Higher of two
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                                                      "Africa" band
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                                                      In media ___
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                                                      Continuation of the phrase that begins in the puzzle title
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                                                      Hot tub
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                                                      Sports channel
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                                                      ___ stone (unchangeable)
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                                                      League or rank
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                                                      "Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player that ___ and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more." (Macbeth)
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                                                      Jacques ___, of deconstruction fame
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                                                      Did a smith's job
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                                                      City on the Somme
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                                                      Musical instrument in the woodwind family
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                                                      Mum's mum, perhaps
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                                                      Old-time anaesthetic
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                                                      "___ kleine Nachtmusik"
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                                                      Bachelor's quarters, slangily
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                                                      ___ and true
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                                                      "Speed Bonnie Boat" isle
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                                                      Solution hint
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                                                      ___ the putt (gets the ball in the hole)
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                                                      1 across, for example
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                                                      Assorted (abbr.)
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                                                      List ender
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                                                      Matador's opponent
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                                                      "And ___" (Billy Joel song)
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                                                      "The Giant, ___" (Hilary Mantel novel)
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                                                      Elephant feature
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                                                      Heart test, for short
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                                                      Polite way to refer to a loo
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                                                      Parts of a musical progression
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                                                      Indian yogurt drink
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                                                      "___ in the Dark" (Peter Sellers film)
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                                                      Developmental stage
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                                                      "Alone" band
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                                                      Not at home
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                                                      Movie-rating org.
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                                                      Make revisions to
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                                                      Earphones
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                                                      John Jacob ___, who went down with the Titanic
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                                                      Least cool
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                                                      Where the batter stands, in cricket
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                                                      ___-Manuel Miranda
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                                                      Pottery fragments
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                                                      Uterine procedure, for short
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                                                      Computer message
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                                                      Japanese horror film series about a cursed videotape
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                                                      Aerodynamic
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                                                      Take it on the ___
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                                                      Subject of "Winged Victory" (statue in the Louvre)
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                                                      "Orinoco Flow" singer
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                                                      Swarm (with)
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                                                      Prefix for angle
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