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Oblique Meetings (Meta)

· By benchen71 · Published 2023-08-02T12:07:42.009Z

Meta Prompt
The answer to the meta is a 6-letter word
I've really enjoyed filling in the occasional MEOW over the last few weeks. I relish the chance to explore some more challenging grids and throwing off some of the restraints and conventions of the genre. Here, for example, is a grid with (shock, horror) two 2-letter words! Gasp! Anyway, if you can look past these little foibles I hope you will enjoy this puzzle. I've selected the difficulty level based on an average of the grid (hard) and the meta (easy). The answer to the meta is a 6-letter word. Answer & explanation: https://www.xword-muggles.com/viewtopic.php?p=138139#p138139
Check out "The MOAT MEOW Mashup Pack" here: https://www.ephesusscroll.com/about/interest4.html. US$10 gives you access to 14 metas that don't always abide by the "rules" of the game. You won't quite know what to expect: asymmetry, 2-letter words, uncrossed letters, sometimes all of those, and sometimes none! One thing is for sure, these are some of the more creative metas my brain has been able to come up with. And there's more: this time there's a mega-meta!
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  • woozy 15:30 · 2023-08-02T12:07:42.009Z
    Great!
    But geez these are hard to do online when crosshare doesn't allow you to edit your grid after you've submitted.
    • benchen71 constructor · 2023-08-02T12:07:42.009Z
      Just wondering why would you want to edit the grid?
      • woozy 15:30 · 2023-08-02T17:39:11.391Z
        To solve a meta. To change letters if the meta involves changing letters. To highlight the themers by deleting letters around it or by deleting letters. It's useful to visualize placements when you have to spell things in grid order if you can somehow mark them. This particular meta was very frustrating not to be able to as I had to keep track of diagonal words which are not visually obvious even after you find them.
        • kurtalert 🤓6:56 · 2023-08-02T21:06:15.622Z
          Small tip - if you're on Windows, use the snipping/clipping tool and highlight relevant things. You can use a variety of different colors. You can also switch to a big pen/marker in white (or any other color) and use that to erase things from the grid if you want.
          • woozy 15:30 · 2023-08-02T22:34:59.989Z
            It's not usually worth that much effort. I just want to do something quick.
            • Charles Montpetit 🤓2:01 · 2023-08-03T14:34:47.495Z
              Crosshare does allow you to download the puz file. Then you can use the "Pencil" function to enter the diagonal words in a different color.
              • woozy 15:30 · 2023-08-03T18:07:06.531Z
                " I just want to do something quick"
          • SJMcK 🤓13:03 · 2023-08-02T22:14:07.595Z
            I use Puzzazz for iOS for all that
      • Dow Jones 3s · 2023-08-02T12:07:42.009Z
        Excellent construction, Ben. That was fun to solve.
        • Sendhil Revuluri 4:50 · 2023-08-06T20:48:11.555Z
          3 seconds?!
          • benchen71 constructor · 2023-08-06T22:43:43.817Z
            Some people solve using the PUZ or PDF file available at xword-muggles.com but then come here to Crosshare to enter the meta answer for checking. But they have to reveal the whole puzzle before they can submit.
        • merlinnimue 🤓8:52 · 2023-08-02T13:13:54.313Z
          Meta took me a lot longer than it should have... I must've gone too fast and missed the last letter so I ran around trying to find a 6 letter word for a singular tryst... I am a dumb... thanks for the puzz sorry for the inconvenience
          • Bird Lives 5s · 2023-08-02T13:03:24.079Z
            The best puzzles are the ones where the metanism, answer, and title all work together -- like this one. I wonder how much more difficult it would have been without the directional indicators.
            • hoover 2s · 2023-08-02T13:18:47.088Z
              Solid construction. But isn't "oblique" a math(s) term? ;)
              • Berto 🤓4:10 · 2023-08-02T13:09:26.826Z
                Went through solving the second half clues before realizing what UR/DR meant! Haha - shaded them in Puz and circled the “meeting” - altho accidentally circled an extra space and had Trlysts for a second. Amazing construction- thank you again, Ben!
                • Ergcat 16:58 · 2023-08-02T13:56:26.715Z
                  Clever construction! Thanks Ben!
                  • Meg 2s · 2023-08-02T13:35:33.183Z
                    That was fun! Thanks.
                    • MatthewL 🤓9:00 · 2023-08-02T14:10:30.215Z
                      Nice one Ben! Had to print it out so I could circle all the intersecting words (else my computer screen would be quite messy right now). Thanks for the puzzle!
                      • kymike 2s · 2023-08-02T14:18:47.592Z
                        That was just a DR clever puzzle!
                        • Qmark 3s · 2023-08-02T14:44:37.631Z
                          Great puzzle...wonderful construction. Thanks Ben!
                          • ajk 9:22 · 2023-08-02T15:15:51.768Z
                            Fun stuff, thanks. Agree that the grid was the tougher challenge--there aren't that many Clapton songs I don't know. :) Got a little lucky and spotted ANTE almost immediately, but still fun highlighting the rest.
                            • Carolyn 3s · 2023-08-02T15:21:39.976Z
                              Enjoyed that!
                              • Tyrpmom 2s · 2023-08-02T15:47:03.593Z
                                Impressive. Thanks.
                                • I K Snamhcok 2s · 2023-08-02T16:26:44.536Z
                                  Cool! I started it online, but then saw that this would be one I’d need to do on paper.
                                  • DrTom 2s · 2023-08-02T16:40:56.512Z
                                    Well that was fun! I love how you gave an implied meaning to oblique (I'm guessing you were going for "not straightforward" or "askew") to tie it to trysts. I'll bet you could have done it without the directionals because when I got to 2D (I start with the first row across, then come back and do downs) I read too fast and wanted to enter STROP but of course did not have enough letters. Then I did 14 and 17A to get the crosses and that is when I noticed S T R and caught on without really looking at the direction. From your title (which I mistakenly read as OBLIQUE MEANINGS I had assumed it would be angles (not slants), but then I got into a rabbit hole. I was trying to find the letters in the angles formed by the two lines so I was getting gibberish. Then it hit me that they all had a common letter and looked back at the title - LIGHTBULB! Thanks for a fun puzzle and one I know from experience had to be difficult to design; which explains the Persian fill with the Kitten meta. This gets a distinct MEOW WOW!
                                    • DIS 🤓6:28 · 2023-08-02T17:10:29.024Z
                                      Nice one -- very clever!
                                      • Laura M 🤓10:31 · 2023-08-02T17:42:14.007Z
                                        Love how the obliques were clued, completely mysterious at first and then oh 71UR !
                                        • kurtalert 🤓6:56 · 2023-08-02T21:07:05.365Z
                                          Great puzzle, thanks Ben!
                                          • KayW 🤓7:43 · 2023-08-02T22:56:45.680Z
                                            Whoa!!! Brilliant construction, Ben! How do you think of these things?!
                                            • lbray53 3s · 2023-08-02T23:50:04.249Z
                                              Wow. How on earth did you get the fill to work?
                                              • benchen71 constructor · 2023-08-03T00:41:30.057Z
                                                It was definitely on the tricky side!
                                              • ReB 3s · 2023-08-03T00:35:44.049Z
                                                We gotta stop meeting like this...
                                                Great construction fitting in those diagonals. But the meta was definitely a kitten for me, having been alerted not to overthink.
                                                • whimsy 🤓12:37 · 2023-08-03T01:47:55.683Z
                                                  Whimsy, whimsy quite contrary here -- didn't have that much trouble with the grid but was stumped by the meta for too long. I was taking the peak letter of the angles -- all 12 -- figuring there would eventually be some method of reduction to end up with 6 letters. I'd like you know that with those 12 letters I could express: "So I had pi cats." That .14 cat must have been coming or going from Schrodinger's box at that particular moment. Anyway, didn't help me.
                                                  But I was very impressed with the puzzle even before I finally solved! Great work, Ben, and thanks!
                                                  • benchen71 constructor · 2023-08-03T05:21:44.243Z
                                                    Now I can't help thinking about an irrational fraction of a cat! =O
                                                  • HeadinHome 🤓17:17 · 2023-08-03T11:20:30.497Z
                                                    This was so well constructed! Must have been a challenge to work out the intersections. Enjoyed!
                                                    FWIW - My method when I need to do some scribbling on a grid after solving on Crosshare is to screenshot the filled grid (save it to photos) and then use Photos editor (open the photo, choose “edit” then the pencil icon; hilite and circle stuff etc. If I need to also see the clues I can side-by-side that screen with the browser/Crosshare screen. This saves lots of paper! (On puzzles I know will have tough metas I just screenshot the whole PDF… but then you have transcribe your grid work into Crosshare to submit.)
                                                    • Charles Montpetit 🤓2:01 · 2023-08-03T15:44:07.474Z
                                                      Since ALL the diagonal entries go rightward, this makes the "R" superfluous in the cluing indicators. I understand that diagonals are less legible if the entries are to be read right-to-left, but to make full use of the gimmick's possibilities, I can't help but wish that the 2DR clue for STROP had been replaced by a 24UL clue for PORTS. The same thing goes for the 20UR clue for ANTE, which could have been replaced by a 4DL clue for ETNA. Better still (for someone like me who likes more challenging metas), you could have listed all the diagonal clues without directional indicators at the very end of the puzzle, and let us find the diagonal entries on our own. Granted, this would have made for a very long 63D clue, but it would have extended the fun of the hunt, too.
                                                      • benchen71 constructor · 2023-08-03T21:05:58.604Z
                                                        Oops, just checked. Yes, it works fine for PORTS too.
                                                        • benchen71 constructor · 2023-08-03T21:04:52.725Z
                                                          Great suggestions! However, there's one complication: the diagonal words have to end at a black square or the edge of the grid. It's not true for all of them, but there are some diagonals that, if they went left, would not end where the words currently start. Also, there has to be a clue number at the start of the diagonal word. I'm not sure that works for PORTS. It would for ETNA though.
                                                        • Darth 🤓20:04 · 2023-08-04T13:15:04.620Z
                                                          Nice one, Ben! Thanks!
                                                          • Sendhil Revuluri 4:50 · 2023-08-06T20:47:53.935Z
                                                            As usual, the meta was double plus harder than the puzzle! I wish Crosshare let me "print" the filled grid… it was all about screen capture and markup :)
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                                                            Across
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                                                              Liability's opposite
                                                            2. 6A
                                                              ___, die, das
                                                            3. 9A
                                                              Sports fan's obsession, perhaps
                                                            4. 14A
                                                              Thai sauce made with peanuts
                                                            5. 15A
                                                              Place of higher ed. in Australia
                                                            6. 16A
                                                              ___ incognita (unknown land)
                                                            7. 17A
                                                              Big name in broth (and also a large merchant ship used in medieval Scandinavia, if that helps)
                                                            8. 18A
                                                              Negating word
                                                            9. 19A
                                                              Send out for takeaway
                                                            10. 20A
                                                              Mathematician and computer programming pioneer / 20UR Up the ___ (increase the stakes)
                                                            11. 23A
                                                              Prefix meaning "outer"
                                                            12. 24A
                                                              Unpaid TV ad
                                                            13. 25A
                                                              Many mins. / 25UR Emotional centre
                                                            14. 27A
                                                              Turns red, as an apple
                                                            15. 32A
                                                              Makes another backup (just in case!)
                                                            16. 36A
                                                              Book of maps / 36DR Celestial study
                                                            17. 37A
                                                              "How Stella Got Her Groove Back" actor ___ Diggs
                                                            18. 39A
                                                              Device used to measure the output of an engine (for short)
                                                            19. 40A
                                                              Exam that might get you into doctoring (abbr.)
                                                            20. 41A
                                                              Taylor Swift album with the song "The Man"
                                                            21. 42A
                                                              Singer Celine ___ / 42UR Change the colour of something
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                                                              "Not hungry" / 43UR "___ of Dogs" (Wes Anderson movie)
                                                            23. 44A
                                                              Interesting times
                                                            24. 45A
                                                              Porto-Novo's country
                                                            25. 46A
                                                              1972 David Bowie hit with an octave jump in the chorus
                                                            26. 48A
                                                              How you might feel listening to ASMR
                                                            27. 49A
                                                              "Round ___ virgin"
                                                            28. 50A
                                                              College transcript no.
                                                            29. 52A
                                                              Gov. agency that Tilda Swinton's character would have worked for if "Moonrise Kingdom" had been set in Australia
                                                            30. 55A
                                                              "A Hard Day's Night" song that Lennon called McCartney's "first 'Yesterday'"
                                                            31. 62A
                                                              "Goodbye Yellow Brick Road" singer ___ John
                                                            32. 64A
                                                              "Cheerleader" singer
                                                            33. 65A
                                                              "Goodnight ___" (Eric Clapton song)
                                                            34. 66A
                                                              Something clarified in a hypothetical scenario (like who to throw out of a lifeboat)
                                                            35. 67A
                                                              Prefix for -ipotent and -iscient?
                                                            36. 68A
                                                              '30s bandleader ___ Jones
                                                            37. 69A
                                                              Egg-shaped / 69UR Muesli morsel
                                                            38. 70A
                                                              Spanish king
                                                            39. 71A
                                                              Agenda entries / 71UR "___ the Light" (song from "Tangled")
                                                            Down
                                                            1. 1D
                                                              "___ stupid question..."
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                                                              Make smooth / 2DR Leather used to sharpen a razor
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                                                              Greek colonnade
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                                                              Voice of Darth Vader, James ___ Jones
                                                            5. 5D
                                                              Neophyte
                                                            6. 6D
                                                              Most of Arrakis, seemingly
                                                            7. 7D
                                                              Name that can precede Holmes and Gay
                                                            8. 8D
                                                              Harry Potter character ___ Skeeter
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                                                              Has the helm
                                                            10. 10D
                                                              Traditional English beverage / 10DR Nirvana, for example
                                                            11. 11D
                                                              Commedia dell'___
                                                            12. 12D
                                                              Kids' cereal
                                                            13. 13D
                                                              "Mens sana in corpore ___" ("A sound mind in a sound body")
                                                            14. 21D
                                                              Corp. execs
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                                                              One of three at a birthday, perhaps / 22DR Child's waxy drawing stick
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                                                              Make unhappy
                                                            17. 27D
                                                              "Ghostbusters" director Harold ___
                                                            18. 28D
                                                              Where ___ (trendy place)
                                                            19. 29D
                                                              Rio de la ___
                                                            20. 30D
                                                              Restaurant
                                                            21. 31D
                                                              Letters on a magnet
                                                            22. 32D
                                                              Deli loaves
                                                            23. 33D
                                                              Competing
                                                            24. 34D
                                                              Anoint, once upon a time
                                                            25. 35D
                                                              ___ Jim (patronising term of address for a male person)
                                                            26. 37D
                                                              Actor Rip ___ (whose names are almost synonyms)
                                                            27. 38D
                                                              Palindromic Gardner
                                                            28. 41D
                                                              "Can't Fight The Moonlight" singer ___ Rimes
                                                            29. 45D
                                                              Attracted to both males and females, for short
                                                            30. 47D
                                                              ___ and groaned
                                                            31. 48D
                                                              "The ___ of Pooh" (Benjamin Hoff book)
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                                                              One-foot putt, e.g.
                                                            33. 51D
                                                              "Elder" Roman historian / 51DR Graceful and elegant bearing
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                                                              "Whip It" band
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                                                              Eastern European / 53DR Simple earring
                                                            36. 54D
                                                              WWII battle site in Normandy
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                                                              Entryway
                                                            38. 57D
                                                              Henry with VI wives
                                                            39. 58D
                                                              Before now, in the olden days
                                                            40. 59D
                                                              "That's mildly amusing, worthy of a couple of syllables"
                                                            41. 60D
                                                              Name of a an ancient Palestine city that's an anagram of "name"
                                                            42. 61D
                                                              Sleep stages
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                                                              Nod accompaniment in Paris
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