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After Breakfast

· By ajk · Published 2023-12-10T05:00:41.810Z

Meta Prompt
The meta answer is a common breakfast item
Happy Sunday. :)
This one popped into my head, unsurprisingly, while consuming the meta answer. 😂 There's not that much too it, but hopefully it will provide some Sunday morning entertainment.
Thanks to Abide and Wendy Walker for test solving, and for some design suggestions that removed some possible red herrings and some of the jungle covering the trailhead. 😂 Thanks to Joe Ross and MarkWoychick for tech support.
Nudges:
Some of the clues have something in common that might put you in mind of the title, at least generally
Breakfast usually contains food
Eight symmetrical acrosses all have food-related clues, and those are the only food-related clues in the puzzle (hence the more obscure clue for 20D)
The first word of the title is significant
Can you think of a word that might go 'after' the themers on the left? How about the ones on the right?
Part of 23A is an (admittedly unintentional) Easter egg that might point you toward the answer
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  • Meg 4s · 2023-12-10T14:10:11.189Z
    I guessed correctly and then went looking for the mechanism. Cute! Thanks Alan.
    • ajk constructor · 2023-12-10T18:18:38.082Z
      :) you're welcome
    • lbray53 2s · 2023-12-10T14:24:47.717Z
      Now I know what I am having for breakfast!
      • ajk constructor · 2023-12-10T18:18:47.197Z
        Happy to provide inspiration :)
      • boharr 2s · 2023-12-10T15:15:53.169Z
        Yum. Thanks, Alan.
        • ajk constructor · 2023-12-10T18:18:57.313Z
          You're welcome, thanks for solving. :)
        • michaelm 🤓5:50 · 2023-12-10T15:56:56.910Z
          I doff my hat to you Alan. You substacked an amazing amount into 11x11. Great work and thanks! Now must sop up some maple syrup with your subliminal suggestion…
          • ajk constructor · 2023-12-10T18:19:44.863Z
            Heh, thanks. It did take quite a while to make the fill anything less than terrible. 😆
            • ajk constructor · 2023-12-10T18:38:33.164Z
              lol I didn't even notice the STACK connection until this comment. Hahaha.
            • Hector 🤓3:25 · 2023-12-10T16:09:43.870Z
              Nice, thank you! Such a sense of deja vu -- maybe this popped up on crosshare in an earlier incarnation? Or maybe my brain is playing tricks on me again.
              • ajk constructor · 2023-12-10T18:20:25.797Z
                You're not dreaming! Originally this was going to run last week in a prior incarnation, and I forgot to turn off the publish timer when it got switch. Congrats on solving the harder one too. :)
                • ajk constructor · 2023-12-10T19:01:55.155Z
                  *switched
                • I K Snamhcok 🤓9:28 · 2023-12-10T16:44:25.410Z
                  Very nice. Thanks, Alan!
                  • ajk constructor · 2023-12-10T18:20:35.980Z
                    You're very welcome. :)
                  • Berto 🤓1:30 · 2023-12-10T16:50:26.371Z
                    Took a little longer for me as I’m not familiar with dishpan and oil pan. Grew up with washing-up bowl and sump respectively - but frying and Peter got me to the right place!!!
                    • ajk constructor · 2023-12-10T18:21:07.513Z
                      Sorry for the cultural misdirect. :)
                    • Carolyn 2s · 2023-12-10T16:46:20.986Z
                      Delicious!
                      • ajk constructor · 2023-12-10T18:21:14.016Z
                        Indeed. :)
                      • KayW 🤓5:03 · 2023-12-10T16:33:28.788Z
                        I tried DANISH first, doesn't everyone have a STACK of those? (I didn't notice that clue til after I submitted based mainly on CHEESE and FRUIT) LOL now I'm hungry. May I go have a second breakfast now?
                        • ajk constructor · 2023-12-10T18:21:36.835Z
                          Second breakfast approved. :)
                        • MatthewL 🤓4:19 · 2023-12-10T16:44:09.043Z
                          Now I'm hungy. Thanks for the tasty Sunday morning meta, Alan!
                          • ajk constructor · 2023-12-10T18:21:46.330Z
                            No problem. :)
                          • whimsy 6:05 · 2023-12-10T16:33:48.736Z
                            Pass the syrup, please -- Thanks, Alan!
                            • ajk constructor · 2023-12-10T18:22:01.046Z
                              You're very welcome. :)
                            • Philip Chow 🤓5:27 · 2023-12-10T16:54:26.900Z
                              nice puzzle!! 🥞🥞🥞... frying was the first pan i saw and cheese was the first cake... then found the rest... was the STACK in substack intentional? it had me thinking about pancakes from the start lol...
                              • ajk constructor · 2023-12-10T18:22:50.596Z
                                LOL no it wasn't. Anything not one of the 8 was just 'thing that will not break the fill.' Can't believe I didn't see that. 😆
                              • hoover 3s · 2023-12-10T17:01:33.582Z
                                Oh! I didn't even see the other PANs and CAKEs. I just went with FRYING and CHEESE. I see the others now.
                                • ajk constructor · 2023-12-10T18:23:40.783Z
                                  Whatever works. :) As mentioned above, I didn't even notice the STACK Easter egg myself. 😆
                                • woozy 6:46 · 2023-12-10T17:43:36.534Z
                                  Hmm, was my first guess but took about 15 minutes to figure out a mechanism why.
                                  • ajk constructor · 2023-12-10T18:23:53.563Z
                                    Glad you made it through. :)
                                  • SamKat9 🤓7:14 · 2023-12-10T19:53:09.772Z
                                    Happy Sunday! This was my first guess but the clues got me to see the mechanism. Nice one, thank you!
                                    • ajk constructor · 2023-12-10T21:01:18.371Z
                                      You're welcome :)
                                    • DCBilly 3s · 2023-12-10T19:54:46.695Z
                                      Good one. I needed the nudges to make me stop staring at the four uses of "common" in the clues.
                                      • ajk constructor · 2023-12-10T21:02:24.772Z
                                        Ha! This is an example of what people mean when they say you don't need to intentionally add red herrings. 😂 Sorry about that. :)
                                      • Dave C 3s · 2023-12-10T20:51:27.320Z
                                        Saw subSTACK and figured it must be pancakes, but didn't see all the other links until later...
                                        • ajk constructor · 2023-12-10T21:02:38.121Z
                                          Glad I included that accidental hint. :)
                                        • Laura M 🤓6:51 · 2023-12-10T20:35:08.260Z
                                          Fun (and yummy)! Thanks!
                                          • ajk constructor · 2023-12-10T21:02:51.187Z
                                            You're welcome, glad you liked it. :)
                                          • merlinnimue 🤓3:38 · 2023-12-10T22:37:00.493Z
                                            Nope, this one went over my tiny little head, so I had to resort to nudges... I actually did think of pancakes when reading 23a but thought the link was much too weak... I guess I did see the symmetric entries, but I kept seeing pairs (fruit cup, fish oil, etc), and in particular I could not see any way to make PETER abide by the theme... I also followed another rabbit hole when I saw a suspicious number of clues with the word common as in the prompt
                                            Anyway thanks for the puzzle, gg to all you geniuses who solved it on your own, ill keep trying and failing to match wits with yall... sorry in advance for the inconvenience
                                            • ajk constructor · 2023-12-11T06:49:32.992Z
                                              Ack, sorry again for the excessive use of 'common' in the clues. Apparently that's just a style preference of mine (which I didn't even know about). :) But glad you got there in the end. :)
                                            • Mwoychick 🤓3:53 · 2023-12-11T01:58:43.127Z
                                              Very nice, Alan - some excellent clues to add to the fun, too!
                                              • ajk constructor · 2023-12-11T06:49:44.318Z
                                                Thanks! :)
                                              • Sendhil Revuluri 🤓1:48 · 2023-12-11T02:19:40.347Z
                                                Got it on my first guess… but it was definitely more of an impressionistic solution (leaning heavily on the prompt). I now see the entries that connect to the PAN and the CAKE parts but think I could use more of a spell-it-out!
                                                • ajk constructor · 2023-12-11T06:50:43.857Z
                                                  Sorry about that. This is definitely one where a leap is required. :)
                                                • Capn Rick 🤓4:08 · 2023-12-11T15:38:16.342Z
                                                  Nice job, Alan! I needed the nudges, but I shouldn't have. Fun one!
                                                  • ajk constructor · 2023-12-11T16:14:39.695Z
                                                    Thanks :)
                                                  • Bird Lives 7s · 2023-12-11T16:01:30.828Z
                                                    Very enjoyable. I saw SUBSTACK and more or less backsolved, but I had to ignore those caramels.
                                                    • ajk constructor · 2023-12-11T18:43:10.321Z
                                                      Thanks. :) Yeah, changing the caramel clue to be non-food was one of the last edits. :)
                                                    • DrTom 23s · 2023-12-11T16:36:12.308Z
                                                      I needed the nudges, though I was going to submit PANCAKE simply on the subSTACK. I saw the food references but got hung up on CARAMELS because I was wondering "Are there 10 themers?" So I tried adding BREAKFAST (BREAKFAST DISH = EGGS, BREAKFAST FRUIT = GRAPEFRUIT. BREAKFAST FISH=KIPPERS), then I saw RAFT and TOES, well "Adam and Eve on a Raft" is two eggs on toast, and TOES well that is a TOAST homonym. I was all over but never thought to add a word to each side. Nice Sunday challenge Alan.
                                                      • ajk constructor · 2023-12-11T18:44:11.418Z
                                                        Thanks, glad you liked it. Sorry for the CARAMELS herring (it was all I could do to make the grid work as-is :))
                                                        • DrTom 23s · 2023-12-13T01:23:13.453Z
                                                          and here I thought it was a Krafty subterfuge....
                                                      • Qmark 9s · 2023-12-12T01:52:27.304Z
                                                        Late for breakfast...but enjoyed the puzzle. Thanks!
                                                        • ajk constructor · 2023-12-12T04:48:39.397Z
                                                          You're welcome :)
                                                        • ReB 13:25 · 2023-12-12T02:15:55.086Z
                                                          Now I'm hungry again
                                                          • ajk constructor · 2023-12-12T04:48:29.649Z
                                                            :)
                                                          • kurtalert 🤓3:12 · 2023-12-17T15:28:34.072Z
                                                            Mmmmm. Now I know what I'm making for breakfast!
                                                            • ajk constructor · 2023-12-17T17:23:34.755Z
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                                                            Casserole container, say
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                                                            Across
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                                                              Casserole container, say
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                                                              Apples and oranges
                                                            3. 10A
                                                              Leer at
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                                                              Woodward who married Newman
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                                                              Equine youth
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                                                              Expecting old failures?
                                                            7. 14A
                                                              Common method for preparing chicken
                                                            8. 16A
                                                              One common soup size
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                                                              Certain shades of brown
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                                                              They're easier to touch when young
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                                                              Small water vessel
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                                                              Modern newsletter platform
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                                                              Peanut or canola
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                                                              Dessert, sometimes
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                                                              TV type or blood component
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                                                              Eastern European
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                                                              Irish province with a Victorian coat named after it
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                                                              Chaplin of "Game of Thrones"
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                                                              ___ Rabbit Organics (baby food source)
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                                                              Tuna, halibut, or salmon
                                                            Down
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                                                              Remove, as a hat
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                                                              Common lab assistant?
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                                                              Kill
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                                                              Famous DNA shapes
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                                                              You might get a thick one in London?
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                                                              Charlotte or Norma
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                                                              One letter stands for Children
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                                                              Injury companion, sometimes
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                                                              Short-term staff
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                                                              NHL star Jaromir, with matching initials
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                                                              Condé ____ (media company and apparently actual person's name)
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                                                              Common support structure
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                                                              Interprets as
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                                                              Armor that protects the thigh and hip
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                                                              Russian administrative division that sounds like a mild British oath
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                                                              Blot, in a way
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                                                              "The bus is late again!? Man, I really need ____"
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                                                              "Time Machine" race that gets all the crossword love (poor Morlocks)
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                                                              Without, as typeface flourishes
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                                                              "Best day ____!" (slang also found in a Cole Porter title)
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                                                              Jeanne d'Arc, for one
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                                                              Mal de ____ (seasickness)
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