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· By benchen71 · Published 2024-04-09T06:00:05.202Z

Meta Prompt
The answer to the meta is a noun
Full confession: I've never watched a single episode of the long-running UK drama "EastEnders". But there is something truly wonderful about the argot of the particular part of London in which this show is set. And so onwards to the puzzle! If you are unfamiliar with Cockney argot, then Google may be of assistance. Hopefully, you find the answer to the meta, which is a noun. Answer & explanation: https://xword-muggles.com/viewtopic.php?p=163455#p163455
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  • benchen71 constructor · 2024-04-09T06:00:05.202Z
    Did you pick up on the fact that the second words of the cockney rhyming slang phrases that were found elsewhere in the grid all had rhyming clues? The rhymes in these clues worked pretty well, I think. But 27D only works if you use a strong Aussie accent: "Sing-a Nor-a __"!
    • woozy 🤓10:20 · 2024-04-09T07:06:48.320Z
      Ha! That was fun. Wasn't expecting the second halves in the grid but ...yeah it works.
      • Laura M 🤓5:29 · 2024-04-09T08:44:47.073Z
        Haha, nice! I noticed a couple of the rhyming clues but I didn't make the connection for all of them. TROUBLE is (sometimes) a noun so I wasn't sure if I was done at that point, but then I saw STRIFE right in the middle and I knew!
        • Berto 1s · 2024-04-09T11:10:06.217Z
          I grew up in (south) East London and had half created a meta on Cockney Rhyming slang - so had a leg up in solving this! TBH some of these rhymes sound more Aussie than cockney but Rabbit first grid entry and i knew where we were heading!!!!
          • ajk 🤓5:14 · 2024-04-09T15:39:02.810Z
            Yeah, I've been working on one of these too. Maybe I'll send it to you for test solving. 😆
          • hoover 3s · 2024-04-09T13:10:25.127Z
            I'll admit I knew where you were going but had to use a dictionary. Nice one! (And I didn't notice the second words in the grid.)
            • Ergcat 8:20 · 2024-04-09T13:38:13.635Z
              Finally got it after trying several things with “trouble” and after sending you a PM! Very clever! Thanks, Ben!
              • Carolyn 3s · 2024-04-09T15:05:57.428Z
                Had to resort to google and was happy to see the second words in the grid! Lots of fun.
                • Darth 🤓7:43 · 2024-04-09T14:17:06.354Z
                  Fun one. I had to use a cockney slang dictionary to hunt them down, but I started to see the rhyming pattern. Thanks, Ben.
                  • Hector 10:39 · 2024-04-09T15:08:13.196Z
                    Chicken and rice!
                    • benchen71 constructor · 2024-04-09T21:59:36.650Z
                      Nice!
                    • ajk 🤓5:14 · 2024-04-09T15:37:57.132Z
                      Submitted TROUBLE first. Had a few issues googling some of them--JACK JONES comes up as Alone more consistently than Own (at least in my hands). Had CAPTAIN COOK as Book for a bit (but I think that's just that I wound up on lesser sites originally). Also got distracted by PORK PIES (= Lies), which is one I knew of the top of my head. And STRIFE had me thinking that maybe I was supposed to find Trouble in the clues, etc. I presume the RUMPOLE clue is an Easter egg (though I'm not sure how popular that show was over here 😂). Fun idea, thanks.
                      • benchen71 constructor · 2024-04-09T22:01:29.609Z
                        Yes, that was intended to be a subtle extra click for those in the know!
                      • I K Snamhcok 1s · 2024-04-09T15:22:28.424Z
                        Ha! That was fun. And educational! Lots of new terminology to apply in life. Thanks, Ben!
                        • MatthewL 🤓5:04 · 2024-04-09T15:11:20.528Z
                          Got totally hung up on TROUBLE being BARNEY RUBBLE (which I remember from the movie Oceans 11, for some strange reason). Tried every which way to make that work, and then finally asked for a redirect. Nice one Ben!
                          • HeadinHome 🤓3:06 · 2024-04-10T22:39:59.528Z
                            same. Exactly.
                          • Cindy Heisler 3s · 2024-04-09T17:09:34.034Z
                            Needed Google, but quickly found the words in the grid. I didn't, however, notice the rhyming clues. Fun meta. Thanks, Ben!
                            • kurtalert 🤓4:14 · 2024-04-09T19:08:28.148Z
                              Really fun. Took me a few tries to find a cockney rhyming slang page that actually had all the entries- then it was smooth sailing!
                              • Abide 🤓7:56 · 2024-04-09T20:47:56.226Z
                                Never could figure out the JACK-- kept getting hits for Jack and Danny
                                • Sendhil Revuluri 🤓2:35 · 2024-04-09T20:42:27.596Z
                                  Knew some of these but leaned heavily on this "dictionary". Then wasn't sure what the final answer would be and of course it was my third guess. Fun!
                                  • benchen71 constructor · 2024-04-09T23:50:12.778Z
                                    That's a very helpful site!
                                  • Sharkicicles 2s · 2024-04-10T02:10:28.457Z
                                    Glad I gave this one a butcher’s!
                                    • Bird Lives 3s · 2024-04-10T02:49:55.753Z
                                      I too answered TROUBLE in haste and was glad for the second chance, which I saw immediately.
                                      Very satisfying puzzle, though I couldn't have solved it without the Internet. Having the second words in the grid wasn't strictly necessary, but it was a nice touch. I figured that RUMPOLE was meaningful, but didn't know why.
                                      • DrTom 4s · 2024-04-10T13:28:14.279Z
                                        The moment I saw STRIFE down the middle I wanted to answer WIFE. I watched East Enders and spent enough time in Britain and London to have heard many of these (was looking for Apples, Dog, Army, Brass). I'll bet it was hard filling the grid and avoiding other Cockney phrases. Nice Captain and a proper corn.
                                        • DrTom 4s · 2024-04-10T21:23:33.923Z
                                          Captain Kirk of course
                                        • Qmark 2s · 2024-04-10T16:19:00.192Z
                                          Fun one, Ben! I knew a few of them but am now happy to add new ones to my vocabulary!
                                          • HeadinHome 🤓3:06 · 2024-04-10T22:39:45.691Z
                                            Exactly the same as MatthewL — submitted Barney, Rubble, and Trouble. Ocean’s Eleven. Had to google Trouble as a cockney phrase to learn about trouble & strife. Okay - but still, I think any of those three answers would be just as good, because of that movie scene! Thanks for this fun puzzle!
                                            • benchen71 constructor · 2024-04-11T04:18:04.486Z
                                              Yes, I can see how you might work backwards from TROUBLE to "Barney Rubble" (or just "Barney", given the penchant for dropping the rhyming part). I didn't anticipate that, having placed the second words in the grid - with STRIFE reasonably central.
                                            • Steve M 25:23 · 2024-04-11T00:19:11.788Z
                                              That was fun! Wasn’t familiar with Cockney argot, lots of fun learning about it. Clever puzzle! Thanks!
                                              • KayW 🤓4:14 · 2024-04-11T02:54:13.996Z
                                                Fun one - thanks Ben! I've heard some rhyming slang before but needed to look up some of these. Some like AUNTIE had multiple second words, so having the second half in the grid was a greatly appreciated extra touch. And REALLY clever to make all those clues rhyme tho I didn't notice that til I read your comment.
                                                • benchen71 constructor · 2024-04-11T04:15:04.162Z
                                                  I thought "Baker's make-ers" would stand out a mile! ;-)
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                                                * Hare relative
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                                                Across
                                                1. 1A
                                                  * Hare relative
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                                                  Suitable
                                                3. 10A
                                                  Sheltered, at sea
                                                4. 14A
                                                  Contusion
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                                                  Carnival city
                                                6. 16A
                                                  Ring like a bell
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                                                  Declaration of hostilities
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                                                  Served dinner to
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                                                  * Wall Street optimist
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                                                  Harvest wool
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                                                  Herbal drink
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                                                  Barely beat, in sports
                                                13. 26A
                                                  Affirmative
                                                14. 27A
                                                  * Card in a royal flush
                                                15. 30A
                                                  Sue Grafton's "___ for Outlaw"
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                                                  Statistical tool to check a null hypothesis
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                                                  Face-to-face exam
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                                                  * Informal name for a parent's sister
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                                                  Cheering word
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                                                  What starts on January first
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                                                  Bailey barrister known for the phrase "She who must be obeyed"
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                                                  Language ending
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                                                  Foul-smelling
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                                                  * "I don't know him from ___!"
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                                                  "Me also"
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                                                  Programming abbr. which means there's no more input to process
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                                                  Shiraz and Merlot wines
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                                                  Includes on an email
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                                                  White in Berlin
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                                                  * Lead the team
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                                                  * Chop into tiny bits
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                                                  Woodwind that's 75% vowels
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                                                  Scottish denial
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                                                  Negatively charged atoms
                                                35. 69A
                                                  Cheeky
                                                36. 70A
                                                  Cleveland basketballer, for short
                                                37. 71A
                                                  De Niro, in "The Untouchables"
                                                38. 72A
                                                  Antlered animals
                                                39. 73A
                                                  Opposite of WSW
                                                40. 74A
                                                  Film critic, Gene ___
                                                Down
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                                                  Baseball stat.
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                                                  Patron of the ___ (cultural funder)
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                                                  Singer Kate ___, who had a resurgence last year thanks to "Stranger Things"
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                                                  Fortnightly
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                                                  "Baby Did a Bad Bad Thing" singer, Chris ___
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                                                  Pomme de ___ (lit. "apple of the ground")
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                                                  Barking sound
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                                                  Bakers make-ers
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                                                  Right now
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                                                  If all goes well
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                                                  Ill-mannered one
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                                                  French pronoun
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                                                  Scat cat?
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                                                  "___ while they're hot!"
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                                                  Matt Damon character, Jason ___
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                                                  Yang's counterpart
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                                                  Singer Norah ___
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                                                  "Am not!" retort
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                                                  Made crow sounds
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                                                  Dissension, friction
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                                                  Wear away
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                                                  Light lunch
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                                                  "___ the breaks"
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                                                  Small battery
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                                                  Alternative to the pill, briefly
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                                                  Author ___ Jong
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                                                  Carrot cousins
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                                                  Female whale
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                                                  Pieces for eight
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                                                  From that time
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                                                  Apple products
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                                                  Moses' mount
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                                                  Manage somehow
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                                                  Explorer ___ Tasman
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                                                  Moo shu ___
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                                                  Indian flatbread
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                                                  Prepare the fare
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                                                  Feminizing suffix
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                                                  Celebration anticipation
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                                                  French seasoning
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