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Petits Fours (Meta)

◆◆ · By benchen71 · Published 2024-08-20T06:00:47.359Z

Meta Prompt
The answer to the meta is 4 letters long
I'm desperately trying to finish this crossword before the Matildas play Sweden in the bronze medal match of the FIFA Women's World Cup. (There's a time marker for those of you who were wondering how far ahead I constructed this one!) That has nothing to do with the meta, though, so don't think there's an additional clue in this blurb. The answer to the meta is 4 letters long. (Actually, now I stop to think about it there may actually be an additional hint in this blurb after all!) Answer & explanation: https://www.xword-muggles.com/viewtopic.php?p=176857#p176857
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  • benchen71 constructor · 2024-08-20T06:00:47.359Z
    I am anticipating that a modicum of back-solving will be needed for this one. While YOLO and AWOL will be well-known to cruciverbalists everywhere, and MIDI should be relatively well-known among musicians of a certain age, CMOS is not exactly a well-known acronym except among computer hardware specialists. A Complementary Metal-Oxide-Semiconductor (CMOS) is a small amount of memory on a computer motherboard that stores the Basic Input/Output System (BIOS - yet another petit four!) settings. So now you know!
    • Hector 2s · 2024-08-20T14:51:30.425Z
      That's one application of CMOS, which has been the dominant semiconductor technology since the 70s.
      • Berto 1s · 2024-08-21T00:22:27.525Z
        Totally a backsolve for me. Y__A with an M and C in the other themers.. love it
      • Capn Rick 8:37 · 2024-08-20T13:54:08.968Z
        Fun one, Ben!
        • hoover 3s · 2024-08-20T07:07:33.226Z
          I've never heard these called petits fours... petits four? petit fours? I don't speak French!
          • woozy 15:46 · 2024-08-20T14:46:23.815Z
            I've never heard them called that either, but it makes sense. I'm kind of feeling I'm missing the bit that puts it all together though.
          • ajk 7:41 · 2024-08-20T14:10:47.629Z
            Needed to reveal the 62D/68A square, never having seen either show. But clocked the meta fairly quickly. Started by trying to combine first 2 and last 2, but spotted YOLO relatively quickly, then CMOS (which I certainly know as a term, though I had to look up what it stood for), then AWOL and then backsolved for MIDI, which for some reason didn't strike me as a 'petit four' even though it seems obvious in retrospect. Like I saw MIDI early (before any of the others I think), but my brain didn't connect it to the theme until I needed the M. 😂 Fun one, thanks.
            • ajk 7:41 · 2024-08-20T14:20:13.980Z
              p.s. -- also don't understand the 27D/41D cross reference. But that's probably just me being dumb. 😂
              • Meg 2s · 2024-08-20T18:21:00.114Z
                I’d appreciate an explanation for that, too!
                • benchen71 constructor · 2024-08-20T21:25:53.504Z
                  It's an error that made it through my exhaustive editorial process. I'm guessing that 27D was TDS at some point, with a clue that linked to 41D. But then the grid was changed and the clue for 41D wasn't! (I've now fixed it.)
                  • ajk 7:41 · 2024-08-20T21:53:02.126Z
                    Phew, glad to know it wasn't just me. 😂 Thanks.
                • MatthewL 🤓7:15 · 2024-08-20T14:31:23.096Z
                  Got hung up on MIDI -- thought it was IDIC, which, according to Google, was a Vulcan philosophy known as Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations. But then I saw Y_CA staring me in the face and the answer became fairly obvious. Thanks for the puzzle, Ben!
                  • boharr 3s · 2024-08-20T15:09:09.407Z
                    CMOS indeed. What's up with BUB/PTS?
                    • benchen71 constructor · 2024-08-20T22:53:10.122Z
                      It was an error. I have since fixed it.
                    • woozy 15:46 · 2024-08-20T14:53:11.264Z
                      Didn't need back solving so much as sideways solving. Figured I needed a four letter acronymb in RUNIC MOSS that scans the two words so either NICM (Nonischemic Cardiomyopathy), ICMO (Indirect Cost Monitoring System), or CMOS of which CMOS was the most common and familiar to all.
                      The revelation was an "YMCA? Yeah, okay. That works, I'll give that a submit.)
                      • Qmark 2s · 2024-08-20T15:36:22.252Z
                        Enjoyed it...thanks Ben!
                        • Laura M 🤓13:01 · 2024-08-20T17:37:19.585Z
                          I'm old enough and techie enough to know all of these immediately (I've never seen CMOS used in a puzzle before!), but still wasted some time trying to find alternate clues until it hit me :-)
                          • KayW 🤓6:53 · 2024-08-20T18:21:53.365Z
                            ROFL ;) Fanastic aha moment on this one. And of course, now I have an ear worm... Thanks for a fun puzzle, Ben!
                            • Pair O Ducks 6:34 · 2024-08-20T17:57:07.354Z
                              Curious which generation of musicians you think won't know MIDI... Seems to me like it's been around forever, although I'm on the young side. I still assumed that couldn't be the right answer though since it seemed to niche to my own wheelhouse to be general knowledge. Not familiar with CMOS either, so Y??A could have been anything, even after I gave up looking for alt clues or another second step.
                              • Sharkicicles 1s · 2024-08-21T03:57:31.334Z
                                Sadly MIDI and CMOS were more in my wheelhouse than YOLO. :)
                              • Darth 14:11 · 2024-08-20T18:52:08.010Z
                                It was luck! :D I was actually surprised at the answer, but I "saw" YOLO and AWOL and then Googled to see that the other sequences were legit.
                                • Sharkicicles 1s · 2024-08-20T19:23:34.603Z
                                  I was just doing some hobby electronics last night, so CMOS fell quick for me. (Also fun to see it in a puzzle!)
                                  Also, 31D will NEVER get old. :)
                                  • kurtalert 🤓5:03 · 2024-08-20T19:55:09.819Z
                                    Took me a little bit to spot CMOS- but I'm a software guy, so I have an excuse!
                                    • Dave C 3s · 2024-08-20T21:29:06.320Z
                                      Nice one. I agree with your comments that YOLO and AWOL were easy and gave me the idea of what to look for. Once I found MIDI I figured it had to be CMOS.
                                      • SporcleMirror 5:02 · 2024-08-21T06:52:11.107Z
                                        I quickly got that "petit four" = 4-letter abbreviation, and I saw YOLO in MAYO LOVER pretty much as soon as I got it. PYRAMIDIC felt off (isn't it PYRAMIDAL?), RUNIC MOSS is not a thing, and ALPHA WOLF is green paint-ish. So I knew that the 9-letter answers were meta-related. BUT, this is an 82-word grid and I got double-Naticked at ARJ OCASIO JOELY, so I (over)thought that there had to be a next step after locating 4-letter abbreviations and maybe the J just HAD to be there. Also there are FOUR theme answers, the answer is FOUR letters long, but this is the third meta this month so it's obviously a red herring.
                                        Turns out that I was making this much harder than it actually was, and maybe the high word count is just a result of you wanting to construct the puzzle ASAP. I like to call this kind of puzzle a "guess the theme" meta, one where there's no meta trickery outside of a few long answers, basically a themed puzzle where the theme isn't given away by circles, a revealer or something like that. I expect these kinds of crosswords to look like an early-week non-meta themed grid, which is why I was overthinking so much.
                                        • HeadinHome 6:57 · 2024-08-21T23:25:32.519Z
                                          Could swear that I already submitted my comments here (??). I was too stuck on the sandwiches to look at the long themers. In each corner there’s a 3-high-stack of 4-letter words, creating a tidy little petit four. In each of these there is a diagonal pair of matching letters, where one of the pair touches a grid edge, and the other touches either the top or bottom of the petit four rectangle. In clockwork order starting in NE corner, these spell M-O-A-T. Imagine my surprise when this answer was not accepted! I got some kind nudges that the long themers were the ticket. YOLO fell first, then AWOL and MIDI. The other I had to look up. When I saw I needed a C for YMCA I looked at CMOS and thought … “Child Minder Over Shoulder??” (Google set me straight.). Great puzzle, Ben, and sorry if this comment doubles the one that apparently got lost in cyberspace and may re-appear!
                                          • HeadinHome 6:57 · 2024-08-21T21:15:02.218Z
                                            Needed a nudge on this one because I got hung up on sandwiches! If the four corners are petit fours (tiny sandwiches with a bottom, middle, and top, or four letters across and 3 letters high, within each block there is one diagonal double letter (there are actually more, but in this case stick to diagonal doubles where one hits the side edge and the other hits the top or bottom of the block). Those letters, in clockwise order, starting in the NE corner, art M-O-A-T. Imagine my surprise when that got rejected. Had some helpers nudge me to the long theme answers, and spotted YOLO right away, but CMOS was a backsolve (I saw >>OS and thought... Child Minder Over Shoulder??) but googled it for the actual acronym, which I've never heard of.
                                            • lukadisgre 🤓7:05 · 2024-08-22T19:06:11.866Z
                                              First of your puzzles I've played, what a fantastic introduction! Got tripped up when I saw ASAP was similar to ASAHI and went down a rabbit hole, but I woke up with a fresh mind and instantly got it lol.
                                              • DrTom 7s · 2024-08-22T18:36:23.509Z
                                                Nice! My way in was rather convoluted. I saw SALAMI SELLER and knew that DELI had to be one, and MAYOLOVER seemed too contrived so. "let's see, MAYO and SALAMI, well MAYO is a PETIT FOUR itself so maybe there is an associated 4 letter word in the themers" No other were evident so I started to look for "hidden" 4 letter words and then I saw YOLO! Hmmm...what about others, yep AWOL and there it stalled. I saw CMOS and know I have worked with a few (Chief Medical Officers) and MIDI which to me is a time, a canal or a skirt. Anyway I had Y?CA so what else could it be. Turns out, with research that MIDI and CMOS have other names and they are acronyms. I thought the answers could be either short forms or acronyms since the Petits Fours were a mix of both. Regardless, a satisfying arrival...now to rid myself of that worm!
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                                                1. 1A
                                                  Orchestra areas that sound worse than they are
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                                                  Giraffe relative
                                                3. 10A
                                                  Like the beggar in Acts 3
                                                4. 14A
                                                  Revise
                                                5. 15A
                                                  Theer are three in htis cluw
                                                6. 16A
                                                  Down in the dumps
                                                7. 17A
                                                  Clinton's attorney general
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                                                  Jackson and Puente
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                                                  Sheltered, at sea
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                                                  Fan of egg yolks blended with oil and a splash of vinegar
                                                11. 22A
                                                  Er/sie/es ___
                                                12. 23A
                                                  Theatre cat in "Cats"
                                                13. 24A
                                                  See 53 down
                                                14. 26A
                                                  Salami seller
                                                15. 27A
                                                  46th President
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                                                  Shaped like an ancient Egyptian monument
                                                17. 32A
                                                  "From appearance fees and royalties our Herc had cash to burn; Now nouveau riche and famous he could tell you what's a Grecian ___?"
                                                18. 33A
                                                  Michael's "Family Ties" role
                                                19. 35A
                                                  Pester constantly
                                                20. 36A
                                                  Garden that I would rather not sleep on
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                                                  English beverage
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                                                  Wine choice
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                                                  Soak (up), as gravy
                                                24. 42A
                                                  One of the Goodies
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                                                  Enthusiastic about (like me and metas!)
                                                26. 44A
                                                  Portion of butter
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                                                  Plant that grows in Norse carved writing
                                                28. 49A
                                                  Approaches
                                                29. 51A
                                                  ___ 51 (the fact that this is 51 across is pure fluke and not meta-related)
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                                                  Earth-friendly prefix
                                                31. 53A
                                                  Puget, for one (abbr.)
                                                32. 54A
                                                  Approx. part of the grid where this entry lies
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                                                  Pack leader
                                                34. 60A
                                                  Fed lines to
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                                                  Japanese beer brand
                                                36. 63A
                                                  Temple statue
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                                                  Additionally
                                                38. 65A
                                                  Readin', ___ and 'Rithmetic
                                                39. 66A
                                                  Lost fish in a Pixar movie
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                                                  Back muscles
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                                                  "The Tudors" actress ___ Richardson
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                                                  "Petit four" that means "Immediately!"
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                                                  Long-lasting do
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                                                  Flash of inspiration
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                                                  Really small
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                                                  Larry, Curly or Moe
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                                                  Bart's bus driver and other people with the same name
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                                                  Ukraine's capital
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                                                  Kiwi genus
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                                                  "For richer, for ___"
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                                                  NASA orbiter
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                                                  Airport alternative to JFK
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                                                  United, as nations
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                                                  Chewy cereal (must be all those oats!)
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                                                  Substance that causes vomiting
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                                                  "Anonymous Confessions of a ___ Friend" (Bryan Duncan album)
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                                                  French Impressionist
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                                                  Use a spade
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                                                  Buddy
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                                                  Feeling of fury
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                                                  RPG that the Chris Pine movie "Honor Among Thieves" is based on
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                                                  Insomnia cause for a princess, supposedly
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                                                  Singer of "La Isla Bonita" (I couldn't resist!)
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                                                  "I wanna do it!"
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                                                  ICU workers
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                                                  Mineral spring
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                                                  Dingy propeller
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                                                  TDs score 6
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                                                  "True Lies" actress __ Carrere
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                                                  Quarantine
                                                29. 45D
                                                  Scoundrel
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                                                  Ariel's antagonist
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                                                  Most up-to-date
                                                32. 48D
                                                  The O of AOC
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                                                  "Upper Middle Bogan" twin
                                                34. 53D
                                                  Like the happy people in a 24 across song
                                                35. 56D
                                                  Oprah's doctor?
                                                36. 57D
                                                  Lyric poems
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                                                  ___ Linda, CA
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                                                  Box-office failure
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                                                  MS-___ was an early 61 down
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                                                  He played Dave in "Flight of the Conchords"
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