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· By Capn Rick · Published 2024-04-03T03:55:44.204Z

Meta Prompt
The meta answer is someone who's adept at turning a phrase.
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  • FrankieHeck 🤓11:22 · 2024-04-03T12:50:30.906Z
    Thanks for the fun puzzle!
    • Capn Rick constructor · 2024-04-03T13:44:51.376Z
      Thanks, Frankie. Glad you enjoyed it.
    • Hector 🤓6:33 · 2024-04-03T12:53:40.138Z
      (Dang it, Crosshare nuked many of my asterisks.)
      • Capn Rick constructor · 2024-04-03T13:46:29.285Z
        Thanks for solving, Hector!
      • Hector 🤓6:33 · 2024-04-03T12:53:03.285Z
        V**y ic ze, ha y*!
        • Qmark 3s · 2024-04-03T12:55:11.635Z
          Loved it...thanks Cap'n Rick!
          • Capn Rick constructor · 2024-04-03T13:47:15.216Z
            Thanks, Qmark. Glad you liked it.
          • boharr 6s · 2024-04-03T12:32:26.077Z
            C O O L
            • Capn Rick constructor · 2024-04-03T13:48:10.826Z
              Thanks, Bob. Do you remember this one from I think last summer?
              • boharr 6s · 2024-04-04T00:11:25.141Z
                I do. Several versions.
            • Meg 5s · 2024-04-03T13:21:11.118Z
              Thanks Cap'n Rick from a very small town in Massachusetts! That was fun.
              • Capn Rick constructor · 2024-04-03T13:49:53.132Z
                Thanks, Meg. Yes, at 1 sq. mi.le, Nahant is THE smallest town in the Bay State.
            • Darth 🤓5:07 · 2024-04-03T14:24:51.127Z
              Those long theme answers were perfect for a MEOW when Tom's away. =)
              • Capn Rick constructor · 2024-04-03T15:04:01.890Z
                My thought exactly, Darth! :)
              • MatthewL 🤓12:16 · 2024-04-03T14:03:33.743Z
                Nc n, Cpn Rck! (Think I may need to buy a vowel or two). Thanks for the puzzle!
                • Capn Rick constructor · 2024-04-03T15:04:47.229Z
                  Ha! Good one, Matthew! You may have just given me another idea...
                • Alex Sisti 3s · 2024-04-03T14:21:20.746Z
                  Yeah, I remember test solving this one! Excellent then, excellent now...
                  • Capn Rick constructor · 2024-04-03T15:05:29.846Z
                    Thanks, Al. Yes, I think you tested it last summer.
                  • Mwoychick 🤓12:20 · 2024-04-03T15:35:56.128Z
                    Nice one, Rick - very enjoyable and clever as always
                    • Capn Rick constructor · 2024-04-03T16:20:19.596Z
                      Thanks, Mark. I think you were one of the test solvers a while back. Thanks again!
                    • Carolyn 9s · 2024-04-03T15:33:52.448Z
                      Very clever!
                      • Capn Rick constructor · 2024-04-03T16:20:35.057Z
                        Thanks, Carolyn!
                      • I K Snamhcok 3s · 2024-04-03T15:34:27.680Z
                        I’ll sell you some vowels, Cap’n — A for A-ONE!; E for EXCELLENT!; I for I LIKE IT!; O For OH, JOY!; U for UNMATCHED FABULOUSNESS; Y for YES!!!!! (Obviously I didn’t think too hard on this.) Fun!
                        • Capn Rick constructor · 2024-04-03T16:25:34.191Z
                          Thanks, Chris! Glad you _NJ_Y_D it!
                        • woozy 🤓24:59 · 2024-04-03T16:00:53.859Z
                          Ooh, nice use of the effect. (would it worked if I had filled in the puzzle as VXNXA XHXTX?)
                          Easy, and fun. Am I correct that there is no other decoding of WHITE other than its the word between VANNA and HOUSE?
                          • Capn Rick constructor · 2024-04-03T17:03:31.259Z
                            Good questions, woozy. I think Crosshare allows alternate entries, nit alternate letters, but I'll have to check.
                            Correct, WHITE is inferred.
                            • woozy 🤓24:59 · 2024-04-03T21:40:25.102Z
                              It's been a while since I used alternates but I think you are right.
                            • Capn Rick constructor · 2024-04-03T17:18:10.459Z
                              Oops! Meant to say "not alternate letters".
                            • hoover 🤓2:17 · 2024-04-03T16:20:35.813Z
                              Ooh, that was clever! Now I see why you have those extra three lines at the bottom!
                              • Capn Rick constructor · 2024-04-03T17:04:50.489Z
                                Thanks, hoover! Yes, I wanted it to resemble Wheel of Fortune's puzzle board.
                              • kurtalert 🤓3:28 · 2024-04-03T16:07:54.098Z
                                Hah! Love it. Great idea.
                                • Capn Rick constructor · 2024-04-03T17:05:11.580Z
                                  Thanks, kurtalert!
                                • Dave C 3s · 2024-04-03T16:48:13.589Z
                                  Fun.
                                  • Capn Rick constructor · 2024-04-03T17:37:36.585Z
                                    Thanks, Dave.
                                  • Bird Lives 3s · 2024-04-03T17:11:34.354Z
                                    F U _ P U _ _ L E.
                                    A voice from the guest house is yelling that it should be Edgar Guest (1881-1959), who wrote popular verse -- I guess that requires turning a phrase.
                                    • Capn Rick constructor · 2024-04-03T17:49:30.398Z
                                      Ha! Thanks, Jay!
                                    • Ergcat 🤓16:40 · 2024-04-03T17:22:00.671Z
                                      Very cool! Took me a bit to realize I had to get the letters ANANV into VANNA! From there it fell into place! Very clever idea! Thanks Cap’n!
                                      • Capn Rick constructor · 2024-04-03T17:50:08.655Z
                                        Glad you enjoyed it, Ergcat!
                                        • Capn Rick constructor · 2024-04-03T18:16:08.939Z
                                          Oh, "VANNA" was spelled out in the order of the alternate entries (VILLA, AREA, NEST, NOOK, ATTIC.)
                                          • Ergcat 🤓16:40 · 2024-04-04T11:52:25.073Z
                                            Realized that after… I initially took the order of original entries, not the alternate ones! Duh!
                                        • Laura M 🤓5:53 · 2024-04-03T17:11:16.454Z
                                          Fun!
                                          • Capn Rick constructor · 2024-04-03T17:50:23.870Z
                                            Thanks for solving, Laura.
                                          • DrTom 3s · 2024-04-03T16:27:18.593Z
                                            Ah, a true turn for the better! FILL = A1, EASTER EGGS = A1, FUN FACTOR = A1, GRID CONSTRUCTION = A+
                                            Great puzzle Rick
                                            • Capn Rick constructor · 2024-04-03T18:11:52.840Z
                                              Thank you, DrTom. Have a nice vacation, but hurry back!
                                            • whimsy 🤓12:55 · 2024-04-03T18:33:03.096Z
                                              Remembered the name but not the game. Fun to do again! Thanks, Rick!
                                              • Capn Rick constructor · 2024-04-03T20:18:26.611Z
                                                Thanks for your help with testing, Claudia!
                                              • ajk 🤓3:58 · 2024-04-03T20:38:00.174Z
                                                lol finally got there. 😂 Helps when you read all the clues (especially the one for 71A 😂😂😂). Just as cool as it was the first time (partly because I didn't remember any of the steps 😂).
                                                • Capn Rick constructor · 2024-04-03T21:17:17.072Z
                                                  Thanks for your help with this one, Alan. Yeah, that 71A clue is kinda important. :)
                                                • KayW 🤓6:27 · 2024-04-03T23:48:41.594Z
                                                  Fun one - and definitely in my wheelhouse! Cat's out of the bag! Speaking of which, CAT is another thing that HOUSE can follow. But let's not go there...
                                                  • Capn Rick constructor · 2024-04-04T00:14:29.464Z
                                                    Ha ha! I hadn't thought of that, Kay! Not sure if I'll mention it in my reveal though. :)
                                                  • Philip Chow 🤓5:30 · 2024-04-03T21:34:45.252Z
                                                    guessed the meta from the prompt alone (coupled with the title being a wheel of fortune category)... then had fun figuring out the mechanism :) impressive puzzle given its thematic density
                                                    • Capn Rick constructor · 2024-04-04T02:11:37.649Z
                                                      Thanks, Phil. Yes, sometimes the mechanism is harder to figure out than the answer. It was a fun one to construct.
                                                      • DrTom 3s · 2024-04-04T02:11:49.609Z
                                                        NOBODY puts more theme info into a puzzle than the Captain. I am ALWAYS in awe!
                                                        • Capn Rick constructor · 2024-04-04T03:22:32.589Z
                                                          Thanks, Tom.
                                                      • Sharkicicles 4s · 2024-04-03T20:38:55.598Z
                                                        I guessed the answer right away from the prompt and the 5,5 enumeration but it was still a lot of fun to backsolve! It’s always nice to see new mechanisms… thanks Capn!
                                                        • Capn Rick constructor · 2024-04-04T03:25:04.237Z
                                                          Thanks, Sharkicicles. That's why I wavered a bit on the difficulty rating. If you're familiar with the show, you probably got it right away. If you're not, then it probably played a bit harder.
                                                        • HeadinHome 🤓3:36 · 2024-04-04T02:41:06.654Z
                                                          I see how to get VANNA… is WHITE just supposed to be suggested by Vanna, plus it can go with HOUSE ?
                                                          • Capn Rick constructor · 2024-04-04T12:40:12.335Z
                                                            Yes, I thought that spelling Vanna's first name was going to be enough for most solvers to figure out the rest vis-a-vis the mechanism and the other "Before & After" examples in the grid. The meta answer section at the bottom is intended to resemble the game board letters that she "turns" (which often display "phrases").
                                                          • HeadinHome 🤓3:36 · 2024-04-04T02:43:07.129Z
                                                            Also - “Before and After” comes from Wheel (name of one of their themes)… and you put the HOUSE after the word. Does “before” come into play?
                                                            • Capn Rick constructor · 2024-04-04T12:36:20.552Z
                                                              Wheel of Fortune has a category called "Before & After" where they mash two familiar phrases together ("A Chip Off The Old Block And Tackle" and "A Breath Of Fresh Air Fryer" are two more examples). So yes, that's what I tried to do here with the long quote and Vanna's name - both of which can come "before" HOUSE.
                                                              • HeadinHome 🤓3:36 · 2024-04-04T23:24:43.981Z
                                                                Ahhh… Vanna White House. Got it. ( :
                                                            • Berto 🤓3:10 · 2024-04-04T02:51:53.391Z
                                                              A backsolve for me - but fun seeing the metanism. Thank you!
                                                              • Capn Rick constructor · 2024-04-04T13:51:15.806Z
                                                                Thank you, Berto!
                                                              • imontoo 3s · 2024-04-04T14:37:17.749Z
                                                                Enjoyed this one!
                                                                • Capn Rick constructor · 2024-04-04T16:24:00.444Z
                                                                  Thanks, imontoo. Glad you liked it!
                                                                • Tyrpmom 1s · 2024-04-04T22:54:09.542Z
                                                                  I love this kind of meta. Thanks.
                                                                  • Capn Rick constructor · 2024-04-05T00:06:36.983Z
                                                                    Glad you enjoyed it, Tyrpmom!
                                                                  • JHSeeman 5s · 2024-04-07T18:37:17.711Z
                                                                    Fun solve for a Sunday with the wife....thanks
                                                                    • Capn Rick constructor · 2024-04-07T19:41:59.272Z
                                                                      Thanks, John. Glad you and your wife enjoyed it.
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                                                                    Familiar phrase of general truth, such as 20A/54A
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                                                                    Across
                                                                    1. 1A
                                                                      Familiar phrase of general truth, such as 20A/54A
                                                                    2. 6A
                                                                      Smartphone message
                                                                    3. 10A
                                                                      Commercial
                                                                    4. 14A
                                                                      Country home
                                                                    5. 15A
                                                                      Field of expertise
                                                                    6. 16A
                                                                      Japanese aborigine
                                                                    7. 17A
                                                                      Basketry willow
                                                                    8. 18A
                                                                      Pub order
                                                                    9. 19A
                                                                      Confined, with "up"
                                                                    10. 20A
                                                                      Part 1 of a familiar phrase
                                                                    11. 23A
                                                                      That woman
                                                                    12. 24A
                                                                      Western treaty grp.
                                                                    13. 25A
                                                                      Sports venues
                                                                    14. 29A
                                                                      Hiding place
                                                                    15. 31A
                                                                      Fireplace residue
                                                                    16. 34A
                                                                      Ump's call
                                                                    17. 35A
                                                                      Resting on
                                                                    18. 37A
                                                                      Words on a Wonderland cake
                                                                    19. 39A
                                                                      Singer Kristofferson
                                                                    20. 40A
                                                                      Shape of some cheeses
                                                                    21. 42A
                                                                      End in ___ (draw)
                                                                    22. 43A
                                                                      Thaws
                                                                    23. 45A
                                                                      Dr. Jones, familiarly
                                                                    24. 46A
                                                                      Frequent flier
                                                                    25. 47A
                                                                      Before, poetically
                                                                    26. 48A
                                                                      Round of applause
                                                                    27. 50A
                                                                      Loud kisses
                                                                    28. 52A
                                                                      It's north of Afr.
                                                                    29. 53A
                                                                      Baseball great Gehrig
                                                                    30. 54A
                                                                      Part 2 of a familiar phrase
                                                                    31. 63A
                                                                      Grow crops
                                                                    32. 64A
                                                                      Like ___ of bricks
                                                                    33. 65A
                                                                      Achille ___ (hijacked ship of 1985)
                                                                    34. 66A
                                                                      Nautical greeting
                                                                    35. 67A
                                                                      Unlit
                                                                    36. 68A
                                                                      Partner of alas
                                                                    37. 69A
                                                                      Scottish girl
                                                                    38. 70A
                                                                      Shade trees
                                                                    39. 71A
                                                                      Versatile word that can follow the familiar phrase at 20A/54A, the meta answer at 72A/73A, and a handful of other things
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                                                                      First name of meta answer
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                                                                      Last name of meta answer
                                                                    Down
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                                                                      Declare openly
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                                                                      Satellite TV receiver
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                                                                      "I cannot tell ___"
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                                                                      Country singer Campbell
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                                                                      "Santa Baby" singer Kitt
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                                                                      Get to the point?
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                                                                      Idle of Monty Python
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                                                                      TV's warrior princess
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                                                                      "Fantasy Island" character
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                                                                      Spanish appetizers
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                                                                      Scenic sight
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                                                                      "___ Karenina"
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                                                                      Responsibility
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                                                                      He came, ___, he conquered
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                                                                      "For Pete's ___!"
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                                                                      Information desk sign
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                                                                      Less common
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                                                                      Pay taxes online
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                                                                      Hatchling's home
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                                                                      Incessantly
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                                                                      Newspaper page
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                                                                      Top story
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                                                                      Smug smile
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                                                                      Follows, as advice
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                                                                      Slender
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                                                                      Rhyme scheme
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                                                                      Mr. Clean rival
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                                                                      Feng ___ (decorative art)
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                                                                      Video game center
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                                                                      Muslim teacher
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                                                                      TV awards
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                                                                      Golf course
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                                                                      Nonstick cookware brand
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                                                                      "Very funny!"
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                                                                      Cupid, to the Greeks
                                                                    36. 57D
                                                                      List-ending abbr.
                                                                    37. 58D
                                                                      Early bird's prize
                                                                    38. 59D
                                                                      ___ Alto, CA
                                                                    39. 60D
                                                                      Hawaiian feast
                                                                    40. 61D
                                                                      Circle segments
                                                                    41. 62D
                                                                      Oxen harness
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