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"Cheery Dude"

· By Abide · Published 2023-10-23T04:28:59.558Z

Meta Prompt
The meta answer is two Beatles songs. Discuss the puzzle and see nudges at
If your entry shows up incorrectly, try it again without punctuation, or switch the order of the songs.
Nudges: Look for common letter lengths in the themers, along with the first letters of the theme words.
It’s not Lovely Rita. Apply the numbers in a more collective manner.
The corners may “Help”.
This puzzle was released on October 23, a day of serendipitous significance to me.
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  • SamKat9 🤓9:50 · 2023-10-23T05:49:41.235Z
    Great puzzle! And Happy Birthday! I had quite a few wrong answers before I figured out the hint for the second song ;)
    • Hector 🤓7:51 · 2023-10-23T14:27:56.220Z
      Happy 🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯🕯
      • Abide constructor · 2023-10-23T16:46:28.849Z
        Wow call Red Adair
      • boharr 3s · 2023-10-23T15:04:52.913Z
        Crosshare as picky, but I got it to work on the second try. Happy Birthday! And thank you for giving us all a fun present.
        • MatthewL 🤓7:44 · 2023-10-23T16:56:32.216Z
          Happy Birthday, Peter!
          • Dave C 3s · 2023-10-23T18:22:51.510Z
            Very clever. I saw the 6 and 4 letter theme answers and title and my wife saw the four corners, so it was a good team effort.
            • Abide constructor · 2023-10-23T18:56:10.650Z
              Mechanism(s): || Each themer and title make up a 6 letter and 4 letter word. These words spell in order, my name.
              In the corners THEY SAY ITS YOUR
              On the Forum main page at the bottom: BIRTHDAYS Happy Birthday to: Abide (64)||
              • Abide constructor · 2023-10-23T19:00:51.881Z
                so much for hiding the explanation
                • DrTom 9s · 2023-10-23T22:45:36.062Z
                  Wow, I never looked at that or I would have known I was right and just needed to spell it out. Talk about a spoiler....
              • Laura M 🤓10:56 · 2023-10-23T19:24:29.104Z
                Happy Birthday! Nice one! Saw the corners, then your name, but it took me several more hours to clue into the word lengths.
                • Mwoychick 12:17 · 2023-10-23T19:29:25.493Z
                  Happy Birthday, Peter! I was thinking "ABIDE" might be referencing "Let It Be" but it was be. Also considered The Ballad of John and Yoko, since it references Peter (Brown), but figured that was too deep a cut
                  • BarbaraK 3s · 2023-10-23T19:56:35.916Z
                    Happy Birthday!
                    • Cindy Heisler 2s · 2023-10-23T21:08:53.398Z
                      I got Birthday right away and I was pretty sure it was When I'm Sixty-four, but it took me a bit to justify the second song. Happy Birthday, Peter! And thanks for the puzzle.
                      • BarbaraK 3s · 2023-10-23T21:42:08.048Z
                        Oh, and yes, we still need you, and yes, we’ll still feed you (puzzles:) !
                        • hoover 5s · 2023-10-23T22:01:59.536Z
                          Happy birthday! I still don't know how I'm supposed to get to the second song. I see THEY SAY ITS YOUR for the first one, and I see PETER ABIDE in the initials of the long entries. The highest entry number is 63. I see YEARS GO but then it falls apart. DOUBLE EDGE might be telling me to look at the down edges, where I see a homophonic YEN OAR ENDEAR, which is what, DESIRE OR LOVE? And I get that the birthday boy is likely a cheery dude, but how does that help? Maybe I'll scroll down and read the comments. Did I say happy birthday?
                          • Abide constructor · 2023-10-23T22:40:36.031Z
                            I can't tell which song you are asking for info on. Did you notice that each themer (and the title) are 6, 4? Ergo "I am 64".
                          • markhr 🤓12:02 · 2023-10-23T22:09:06.298Z
                            Very clever. Happy Birthday, Peter. Personally, I stopped counting a while back...
                            • DrTom 9s · 2023-10-23T22:41:34.999Z
                              Well I had this early on, but apparently the program did not like 64. I did not get it the way I should, I got "They Say It's Your..." and Peter Abide (also Cheery=Happy ? Dude=Peter Abide) and I guessed from hearing him and knowing some of his history that Peter was in his sixties. But when I entered Birthday When I'm 64 it said incorrect). It was only when Peter nudged me to look at the theme entries broken in two that I got the 64 and realized I must have to spell it out. Thank goodness you don't live on a hill!! Nice MMM Peter.
                              • Abide constructor · 2023-10-24T00:00:48.287Z
                                Not sure why Crosshare wanted to make this a Week 5. I thought I had the bases covered as it says spaces and punctuation are ignored. I had these as Answers
                                The solutions are: When I'm 64 Birthday, When I'm SixtyFour Birthday, Birthday When Im 64, Birthday When Im Sixtyfour
                                • damefox 🤓4:06 · 2023-10-24T00:53:33.287Z
                                  Huh, it says it ignores punctuation but maybe it doesn't ignore apostrophes? This is a question for Mike. Anyway, that would explain Berto's comment below, because you only include the apostrophe when When I'm 64 appears first. But I entered "birthday / when I'm sixty-four" and it accepted that, so there goes that theory. Did it get confused because a slash appeared first? Again a question for Mike. Possibly we've run into some weird edge case of the meta answer submission feature...
                                  • Abide constructor · 2023-10-25T16:13:29.372Z
                                    Some of my solutions had punctuation in them. I removed the ' and - on my end. I think that should resolve the situation.
                                  • DrTom 9s · 2023-10-24T02:41:12.773Z
                                    Well I suppose it is the apostrophe because I'm sure I entered "When I'm 64 Birthday". Not to worry I got there in the end and saw a lot more elegance. I usually do terrible on those I have to infer, I consider them infernal. Always better to have a confirmer!
                                • Berto 🤓3:42 · 2023-10-23T23:03:49.413Z
                                  Crosshare accepted “Im” but not “I’m” ?!?! But no matter - taking out pesky punctuation fits with my being nudged to remove the comma from (6, 4) lol - thank you Peter! Happy 🎂 🎂 🎂 🎂 🎂 🎂 🎈 🎈 🎈 🎈 Birthday!
                                  • merlinnimue 🤓12:20 · 2023-10-24T05:09:15.696Z
                                    definitely not in my wheelhouse (beatles remind me of a bad college roommate so ive never cared to listen), i was lucky to take a step back and spot the lyrics in the corners, and thinking about birthdays led me to try when im 64, but i did not recognize the (6,4) going on in the themers and title, so i am a dumb
                                    anyway, happy birthday... its not fair that youre the one giving us presents too
                                    • Abide constructor · 2023-10-24T12:42:17.864Z
                                      I always appreciate your generous comments for these “amateur” puzzles 😊
                                      • merlinnimue 🤓12:20 · 2023-10-24T14:16:46.263Z
                                        If this is considered amateur work, then I really have no hope of ever reaching the level of you superstars... which is ok I guess, not everyone can, but hurts cause I wanted to be there... sigh I guess ill abide with what I have
                                    • Anita and Steve 3s · 2023-10-24T15:50:40.489Z
                                      I kept looking at the 6 4 enumeration and was sure one of the answers must be LOVELY RITA, the only Beatles song with that enumeration. Then my husband spotted the four corner words.
                                      • JHSeeman 8s · 2023-10-24T16:26:13.310Z
                                        Happy Birthday Peter....awesome one. Had the birthday pretty quickly .... took a bit to see the second half. Loved it.
                                        • ajk 8:48 · 2023-10-25T00:35:41.613Z
                                          LOL I'm a dolt. Had When I'm Sixty-Four pretty quickly, just from the enumeration of the themers. Then saw the name and figured out the motivation for the puzzle. But didn't realize that I should be able to get the second one from that until it was pointed out. 😂 I guess I should have looked at the corners too. :) Excellent stuff as always. Thanks!
                                          • Pair O Ducks 7:07 · 2023-10-25T00:40:27.458Z
                                            I hadn't even spotted the mechanism for "Birthday" yet, but I guessed the significance of the 64 and almost posted Happy Birthday on the forum. Glad I held off, but now that I'm here, happy belated!
                                            • LB800 3s · 2023-10-25T12:32:25.446Z
                                              Happy Birthday and what a gift you gave to us to celebrate! I come to you from the frontlines of Beatlemania having been 13 in 1964, seeing them live that year. Here we are all of these years later and I love them even more. My picture is even in Paul McCartney's The Lyrics!! No kidding. And now, thanks to you Pete, Tantum Ergo is what's stuck in my head!! LOL. (You can't take the North Jersey Catholic School out of the girl).
                                              • whimsy 🤓13:14 · 2023-10-25T14:32:54.989Z
                                                Lots in common -- I bet you were at Yankee Stadium with my friend from Ridgewood! :o)
                                                • LB800 3s · 2023-10-25T16:14:03.334Z
                                                  I still have dear friends in Ridgewood! I'm from Westwood - also in Bergen County. I was at the Forest Hills Show Aug 28, 1964. Much smaller venue than the stadium so it was incredible. The picture in Paul's book is from that amazing day!
                                                • Abide constructor · 2023-10-26T01:23:31.694Z
                                                  Can you post a pic?
                                              • Carolyn 3s · 2023-10-25T14:10:35.945Z
                                                Very, very clever! Have a great one, youngster!
                                                • rjy 🤓13:10 · 2023-10-25T14:36:25.903Z
                                                  Let me join the chorus of happy birthdays here, and what a terrific puzzle, Peter! Saw the PETER ABIDE right away, and with pronouns THEY and YOUR, it had vibes of I ME MINE. But I got by with juuuuuust a little help from my friends. Cheers!
                                                  • whimsy 🤓13:14 · 2023-10-25T14:40:52.939Z
                                                    Thank you and Happy Birthday, Peter! What a Bright Idea for a special Double-Edged puzzle! I find it so interesting how some people see one song first and strive for the other, while others see the other first and struggle for the one others had little trouble with. These puzzles are always so "Different strokes for..." which makes them so wonderful!
                                                    • Abide constructor · 2023-10-25T16:23:29.208Z
                                                      Originally the second song (Birthday) was an Easter egg. But when some of the test solvers latched on to that as the answer, having a two-song answer made sense. I didn't count on the "dual-brain" scenario you correctly noted.
                                                    • michaelm 🤓3:07 · 2023-10-25T15:11:28.204Z
                                                      Happy 6,4th Birthday Peter. LMAO at 28D. Thanks as always! The End.
                                                      • Steve M 40:29 · 2023-10-25T19:44:42.071Z
                                                        Happy Birthday! I saw PETER ABIDE in the themers almost immediately, but it took me awhile to figure out it was your birthday and the connection to the Beatle songs! Fun puzzle!
                                                        • KayW 🤓4:17 · 2023-10-25T23:33:15.919Z
                                                          A belated Happy Birthday Peter!! And wow. You are a whole 33 days older than me, you ol' geezer :D
                                                          I saw your name in the theme entry initials but wasn't aware of the other significant details.
                                                          • Abide constructor · 2023-10-26T01:29:05.750Z
                                                            Recall in the intro I said “some Googling may be required “ 😊
                                                          • Bird Lives 7s · 2023-10-26T02:13:11.859Z
                                                            HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!. Ideally,, someone else would have constructed this one for Peter, but who knew?
                                                            I've often wondered about that deal where I sell my soul to the devil for eternal youth. Alas, I never got the offer. OTOH, some people, apparently, never even need to consider it.
                                                            • ReB 8s · 2023-10-26T02:57:07.200Z
                                                              Happy birthday + 2 (days) as well .
                                                              Curiously I found both songs differently. First, based on nudges 2 & 3, I counted the total number of letters in the 5 themers plus the four corners, which happens to add up to 64. Coupled with the last nudge, I intuited that you were celebrating your 64th birthday, which gave me both song titles. Missed what the four corners spelled out... Well done.
                                                              • Abide constructor · 2023-10-26T03:39:34.924Z
                                                              • HeadinHome 🤓3:01 · 2023-10-26T13:06:36.159Z
                                                                Reading this thread, I realize that the 6-4 read as 64 (age) had been completely lost on me. I noticed 6 and 4 but when you nudged to think of it “collectively” I started looking for 10-letter Beatles songs! 🤦‍♀️. Also, I was expecting the answer to be 2 words like the themers (maybe consisting of 10 letters?) — so… “Abide” could be “Wait” (a Beatles song)… what could be the one for Peter? Is there a song called Piper? Apostle? Saint? (And if the word is 6 letters that would be spectacular.) Finally, since all these words acrostic to your name, I tried looking for Beatles song titles that would acrostic to CHEERY DUDE… but of course not possible. So… the nudges pointed to some of what I had already seen, but must say that I never saw the corners until that nudge! This really was well constructed! Just turned out for me to have too many other ways keep trying to use the data I saw, to go looking for other things (like those 4 corners or the birthday comment on the muggles site… and I may have been accessing this on the day after anyway.)
                                                                • Abide constructor · 2023-10-26T14:41:28.572Z
                                                                  Original title was Knight Life, referencing Sir Paul, but that was a tenuous, rabbity connection.
                                                                • woozy 15:57 · 2023-10-26T15:46:23.517Z
                                                                  I seem to frequently miss point numbers of letters into numbers for other uses and will miss turning two numbers into multidigit numbers (and vice versa). I'd say I miss it enough to claim it's a "special weakness of mine".
                                                                • Sharkicicles 3s · 2023-10-26T15:39:05.407Z
                                                                  I hope the Dude Abided on this 64th.
                                                                  • billkatz 18s · 2023-10-26T23:18:11.859Z
                                                                    My solving buddy suggested I try this one, and it is really well done! Thanks!
                                                                    • Alvibu67 2s · 2023-11-04T20:23:34.976Z
                                                                      Finally looking back at this puzzle so I can take it off my clipboard. I submitted many different times, different iterations, but I kept getting that silly crying emoji. I saw on the Muggles forum that I was on the solved list, but I couldn't figure out what was wrong with my submission on Crosshare. I realize now it was probably because I kept putting the word "and" between the two song titles, which was not part of the correct answers accepted. Or maybe I included/omitted apostrophes. Now I know to exclude any extraneous words/punctuation in Crosshare submissions. Thanks for a great puzzle, Peter, and happy much belated birthday!
                                                                      Alternative to she or he
                                                                      1. 1A
                                                                        Alternative to she or he
                                                                      2. 5A
                                                                        Full of foliage
                                                                      3. 10A
                                                                        Give voice to
                                                                      4. 13A
                                                                        Geraldine Chaplin's daughter
                                                                      5. 14A
                                                                        How a pirouette is done
                                                                      6. 15A
                                                                        Unimaginative college mascot from the 45th state
                                                                      7. 16A
                                                                        Physical characteristic of Vulcans
                                                                      8. 18A
                                                                        Trash collector
                                                                      9. 19A
                                                                        One obsessed with anime (literally "nerd" in Japanese)
                                                                      10. 20A
                                                                        Whistler's Peak to Creek, e.g.
                                                                      11. 22A
                                                                        Fan-___ (amateur writing)
                                                                      12. 23A
                                                                        Eucharist hymn which translates to "Therefore so great"
                                                                      13. 27A
                                                                        End of Oktober?
                                                                      14. 29A
                                                                        Chick chirp
                                                                      15. 30A
                                                                        It precedes "Di" or "Da" in a Beatles song (not related to the meta)
                                                                      16. 31A
                                                                        Mount in Greek myth
                                                                      17. 33A
                                                                        Double agent, usually
                                                                      18. 34A
                                                                        Cancún's Hotel Zone, for example
                                                                      19. 37A
                                                                        Prepares a trotline
                                                                      20. 39A
                                                                        "The Big Guy" at Valhalla
                                                                      21. 40A
                                                                        1972 Derby winner ___ Ridge
                                                                      22. 41A
                                                                        "I find your comment greatly amusing", in textspeak
                                                                      23. 43A
                                                                        Sukiyaki pairing
                                                                      24. 47A
                                                                        Inspiration that leads to a solution
                                                                      25. 50A
                                                                        City-related: Abbr.
                                                                      26. 51A
                                                                        Create, as fashions
                                                                      27. 52A
                                                                        Govt. debt instrument (20 year rate now over 5%!)
                                                                      28. 54A
                                                                        Bear hair
                                                                      29. 55A
                                                                        Feature of a retro razor
                                                                      30. 58A
                                                                        ___ Building (30 Rock, formerly)
                                                                      31. 59A
                                                                        Chris with 18 Grand Slam singles wins
                                                                      32. 60A
                                                                        Notes between re and sol
                                                                      33. 61A
                                                                        Third word of TGIF
                                                                      34. 62A
                                                                        Celestial cool red giant
                                                                      35. 63A
                                                                        Mind-manners link
                                                                      1. 1D
                                                                        Refill, as a second glass of champagne
                                                                      2. 2D
                                                                        Blowfish head?
                                                                      3. 3D
                                                                        Giant computers of the 1940s (let's just assume there was more than one)
                                                                      4. 4D
                                                                        Pull or tug quickly
                                                                      5. 5D
                                                                        Myrna of "The Thin Man"
                                                                      6. 6D
                                                                        U-turn from WSW
                                                                      7. 7D
                                                                        One small bite
                                                                      8. 8D
                                                                        Hand over, reluctantly
                                                                      9. 9D
                                                                        "___ Ready" (hit song for Barbara Mason and Teri DeSario)
                                                                      10. 10D
                                                                        Target of The Monkees "Pleasant Valley Sunday"
                                                                      11. 11D
                                                                        Feeling all excited
                                                                      12. 12D
                                                                        Strong desire
                                                                      13. 17D
                                                                        Egyptian boy king
                                                                      14. 21D
                                                                        Resumes after a lockdown
                                                                      15. 24D
                                                                        Lhasa ___ (interior watchdog)
                                                                      16. 25D
                                                                        Not far away
                                                                      17. 26D
                                                                        Dinghy propeller
                                                                      18. 28D
                                                                        IDs that have an expiration date?
                                                                      19. 32D
                                                                        Leakage sound
                                                                      20. 33D
                                                                        Indian title of respect
                                                                      21. 34D
                                                                        Bygone Buicks
                                                                      22. 35D
                                                                        Nocturnal hopper
                                                                      23. 36D
                                                                        "Whiles, like ___, I go to find my fawn" : Shakespeare
                                                                      24. 37D
                                                                        "gimme a sec"
                                                                      25. 38D
                                                                        Ventilation passage
                                                                      26. 41D
                                                                        No. 2 jobs at the state capital
                                                                      27. 42D
                                                                        Courtly dance in 3/4 time
                                                                      28. 44D
                                                                        Matt who holds the third-longest winning streak (38) on Jeopardy!
                                                                      29. 45D
                                                                        Martial arts discipline
                                                                      30. 46D
                                                                        Cause to be cherished
                                                                      31. 48D
                                                                      32. 49D
                                                                      33. 53D
                                                                        "Will you ___ valentine?"
                                                                      34. 54D
                                                                        Fourth word of TGIF
                                                                      35. 56D
                                                                        Victoria's Secret purchase
                                                                      36. 57D
                                                                        LGL alternative