The answer to the meta is a 1900s play that was made into a 1930s movie
This "week 4" puzzle is the result of a restless night's sleep. Now, I am quite certain no one will have heard of the meta answer, which is a 1900s play that was made into a 1930s movie, so Google will be needed. But I think I've given you enough to get you there. (I hope!) Answer & explanation: https://www.xword-muggles.com/viewtopic.php?p=168540#p168540
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Clever mechanism! I think obstacles will include the nontrivial googling, the semi-unusual left-right ordering, and the non-US meaning of "third floor."
The "ground" floor in 31U was a big clue in that direction.
For me the hard thing was googling. I was sure the answer had to be "PASSING UP" but that darn pesky reality got in the way again (surely the universe can retroactively create a 1900s play when it fits the meta so well). I found a page on wikipedia of films based on plays but due to the formatting I misread it and didn't get to the full list at the bottom.
Yep, that's why the meta hint explicitly mentioned "ground floor"! :-)
MatthewL 🤓6:37 · 2024-05-28T16:46:52.846Z
Oy. That was all kinds of difficult. Maybe needs to be upgraded to Level 5. Got step 1 right away, but then tried about a bajillion different ways to apply the clue at 31D (and at 9A) before finally hitting on the right thing. More like work than fun (I jest). Thanks for the puzzle, Ben!
HeadinHome 🤓8:45 · 2024-05-28T20:28:03.629Z
Loved this even though I’ve never heard of the movie. Figured out I was on the wrong floor by thinking about 20A (SPAT is the same in US .. why would he…?)
I didn't intend that, but I'm glad it helped! The US version of the NIV has "spit" used for the past tense (eg. Mark 7:33), but I've always wondered how widespread that usage was.
HeadinHome 🤓8:45 · 2024-05-30T00:29:13.294Z
And yes, most versions in US are “he spit on the ground and made mud…”
HeadinHome 🤓8:45 · 2024-05-30T00:28:25.648Z
Yes - I think Americans use either for the past tense. I’ve always said “I spat it out” or “Mom! she spat on me!” … but it could be a localism because our family heritage is Appalachian (Scots-Irish). Definitely we would never say “she spat up” (for vomited)… that would always be “she spit up.” Language is weird.
Very tricksy! I thought of Nella Larsen's excellent novel "Passing" which I believe has been made into (multiple?) film(s?). But that of course didn't fit the prompt. Not familiar with this film, do you recommend it?
Never seen it; never read the play, either. But I absolutely adore "Three Men In A Boat" - one of the funniest books ever written!
Berto 2s · 2024-05-29T10:48:17.090Z
I was so close! I started writing down G-N-I-S and thought “what nonsense is this!?” And then when nudged back down that path I could only find the 2021 film - gah! Will have to remember this title for charades (put it alongside Those Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines!!) - thanks Ben!
Meg 4s · 2024-05-29T12:56:03.273Z
Finally found PASSING and then went to IMDB. The nudge about floors in Australia was helpful. Was there a different path?
You found the intended path: once you get PASSING going BACKwards on the THIRDFLOOR you have all the key words of the title and Google should get you there.
Laura M 🤓8:23 · 2024-05-30T02:38:33.554Z
I had it all except for the ground floor thing, I can't believe I missed that... But yay Jerome K. Jerome! I'm not sure that Three Men in a Boat makes it into my top ten favorite books (there's a lot of competition) but I enjoyed it a lot when I read it several years ago, after reading Connie Willis' sci-fi/time-travel classic To Say Nothing of the Dog (also recommend!).
Found the mechanism about a quarter of the way through the grid (when I tried to enter CLEAN UP for 53D). But executing it gave me gibberish so I figured I was doing something wrong. Even when I anagramed to PASSING I couldn't turn that into the answer via google. Eventually got told that was the right track and went back to google and eventually found it. Very cool and original mechanism. :)
hoover 5s · 2024-05-30T16:42:28.292Z
I went too far. Step 1 was I took the circle letters and solved the Up clues in the 3rd dimension. Step 2 was I found the matching words elsewhere in the grid. Step 3 was I took the CLUES for those matching words and tried to do something with them... Rabbit holes included noticing TADA, A-ONE, ADO, OF in the leftover letters of the entries, as well as OTEMO is METOO anagrammed.
KayW 🤓9:46 · 2024-05-30T23:50:27.796Z
LOL fourth time is the charm:
PASSING UP
PASSING
(both of those because googling movies made from plays wasn't giving me anything)
PASSING OF THE THIRDFLOOR BACK
THE PASSING OF THE THIRDFLOOR BACK
Very creative metanism, Ben! I kind of knew what to do but was not aware of the difference in floor-countings. Thanks!
With 74 across: Where in a department store to find what you are looking for, perhaps
14A
Shut, as a door
15A
On the ___ (fleeing)
16A
City of northern Vietnam located on the western bank of the Red River
17A
Like many bathroom floors
18A
Early Beatles label
19A
Pixie-like
20A
Expectorated (in Australia)
21A
What everyone wants at the table
23A
World Cup cheer
24A
Glance over
27A
Dorm supervisors
29A
In a major way
32A
Spike Jonze movie starring Joaquin Phoenix
34A
Situate a picture on a wall
38A
Is in the plural
39A
Not fulfilled, as expectations
41A
45 across
42A
"___ Macabre" (Saint-Saens work)
44A
Greeting in Rio
45A
41 across
46A
Soothing plants
47A
Moat with no water
49A
Competed in a sprint
50A
Nicholas II, for example
51A
Belgian instrument maker Adolphe ___
52A
Looking at
54A
End of a French movie
56A
Song for one
57A
Toothpaste type
60A
Bracelet fastener
63A
Military meal
67A
Cheri of 51 down
69A
NaCl in Paris
70A
Hajj destination
71A
Wood-shaping tool
72A
Another French friend
73A
Milkshake accessory
74A
See 9 across
75A
Where an F1 car might make a stop
76A
Organised excursions
Down
1D
John follower
2D
Short petticoat
3D
Caffeine-rich nut
4D
African fly
5D
Wordy British ref. work
6D
___ and jerk (weightlifting event)
7D
Stage hogs
8D
French friend
9D
Angle symbol in trigonometry, often
10D
"2001" computer
11D
Data, briefly
12D
Agitate
13D
Eat in style
22D
Schedule abbr.
25D
What crosswords have for their across, down, and (on the odd occasion like this one) up entries
26D
Novelist ___ Rand
28D
"___ Always A Woman" (Billy Joel song)
29D
Attacked / 29U. End a phone call
30D
Russian mountain range
31D
Italian salami city / 31U. Phrase heard upon entering a department store elevator on the ground floor, and a hint for what you will need to do to find the answer to the meta
32D
Three-dimensional spiral shape that has nothing to do with the meta
33D
Coup d'___
35D
Video-game console maker that made the number 2600 famous
36D
"I am ___" (classic Eowyn line from the movie)
37D
Auctioneer's warning
40D
Latifah Alattas' moniker, ___ Spira / 40U. Make a complete hash of things
41D
Taj ___
43D
Feudal worker / 43U. What characters in horror movies should never, ever do
48D
Fiscal exec / 48U. Type of magic that will almost certainly involve sleight of hand and misdirection
51D
NBC sketch show
53D
Regain consciousness / 53U. "___ on aisle three" (loudspeaker message in a supermarket, perhaps)
55D
Less friendly, as a reception
56D
Bowler's challenge
57D
"Game whose aim is to hit a very small ball into an even smaller hole with weapons singularly ill-designed for the purpose" (Churchill)
58D
List ender
59D
"Dallas Buyers Club" Oscar actor Jared ___
61D
"Straight away!"
62D
Prefix meaning "half"
64D
Light brown
65D
Lasting mark
66D
Cuts wood / 66U. Almost pull off a crime but make one teeny, tiny mistake