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· By benchen71 · Published 2023-07-12T06:00:07.150Z

Meta Prompt
The answer to the meta is an exclamation
Here's a puzzle I threw together when I probably should have been working on my thesis in order to allow madhatter to work on his thesis! (OK, OK, time to get my nose back to the grindstone!) The answer to the meta is an exclamation. Answer and explanation: https://www.xword-muggles.com/viewtopic.php?p=136036#p136036
Check out "The MOAT Mini Pack of Marching Bands" here: https://www.ephesusscroll.com/about/interest4.html. US$5 gets you 7 Marching Bands which, hard enough on their own, now contain metas too. And once again there's a mega-meta!
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  • Hector 3s · 2023-07-12T14:56:47.116Z
    Enjoyed this concept, thanks. And get that thesis done!
    • benchen71 constructor · 2023-07-12T21:11:17.729Z
      It's getting done... very slowly!
    • whimsy 🤓10:34 · 2023-07-12T15:19:45.352Z
      Oho! Good one! Thanks, Ben! (And while I had the entry for 58A quickly enough, it took me a bit to figure out why it was so "meta" :-)
      • woozy 13:04 · 2023-07-12T15:25:11.557Z
        Okay, I have to ask. The blacks were easy but how are we supposed to figure out the whites?
        • benchen71 constructor · 2023-07-12T21:10:51.445Z
          If you ignore the letters on the black squares you still have valid 3-letter words. In the 4x4 grids without a black square you have to find a white square that you can similarly ignore.
          • rjy 2s · 2023-07-12T21:04:14.868Z
            Not completely 100% this was the metanism, but the way I got it was to notice that the black letters, if “really” black, left legit 3 letter words both across and down. The trick was to determine which letter in each of the others, when extracted, would leave two three-letter words behind.  It was pretty clean that way, with the caveat that you wouldn’t extract the trivial S where ONES crossed ERAS, leaving ONE and ERA. Instead, you’d pick the M, leaving IRE and TIE from the MIRE/TIME crossing.
            • benchen71 constructor · 2023-07-12T22:15:28.959Z
              Yes, that's exactly the method.
          • Cindy Heisler 2s · 2023-07-12T17:00:21.853Z
            Very nice! Although I still don't get 58A. The title really helped. Thanks, Ben!
            • woozy 13:04 · 2023-07-12T17:31:55.810Z
              An Eastenders is a cockney. 'e 'ears with 'is ears.
              • Cindy Heisler 2s · 2023-07-12T23:03:29.280Z
                Thanks! Right after I wrote that note, my husband explained it to me. I should have seen it.
            • Laura M 🤓5:22 · 2023-07-12T18:08:57.091Z
              Loved it, very cool!
              • Dow Jones 3s · 2023-07-12T18:16:18.711Z
                That was fun, Ben. Clever concept. Thanks.
                • DrTom 4s · 2023-07-12T20:53:07.131Z
                  Fun one Ben, I tried all kinds of things but then thought, "OK, what does the Title mean" and it hit me that in one box it would be BLACK and another WHITE. Now that said I ended up with CHECK S/C/ATE at different points; ERAS and ONES gives you an S, TAO and ARA gives you a C, etc. There's the problem with three letter words and crosswords (as I learned with "Rack Up the Points - 4/2/22). So many words and abbreviations are 3 letters and commonly used that you quickly limit your fill. You actually did a GREAT job of making only necessary 3 letter words out of 4 letter words overall, and to be fair there is no other answer than CHECKMATE that goes with your title (CHECK SATE happens when you are fed up with getting the check, CHECK CATE is what you do if Ms Blanchett is about). So thanks for MEOWing when I know you had other things to do and your own area to tend to
                  • benchen71 constructor · 2023-07-12T22:14:44.643Z
                    Yes, the grid went through a number of versions to get it to this point!
                    • DrTom 4s · 2023-07-14T14:12:57.649Z
                      I'll BET it DID! It was fun, glad you stuck with it.
                  • KayW 🤓7:16 · 2023-07-12T21:32:19.768Z
                    Very clever Ben - thanks!
                    • Mwoychick 9:03 · 2023-07-12T23:06:28.434Z
                      Thanks for the puzzle, Ben, and good luck with your thesis!
                      • benchen71 constructor · 2023-07-13T02:57:02.778Z
                        Thanks! It's extremely slow going, since I am working fulltime and studying parttime - with metas an all-encompassing hobby! :-)
                      • ReB 3s · 2023-07-13T00:17:57.649Z
                        Very apt title - that we needed both the black and white squares (in alteration) to derive the answer. Fortunately my first hunch - that ignoring the black squares still left valid words - turned out to be correct. But since the five black square letters yielded nonsense, I thought I'd try to find a white square in the four non-black boxes that would follow that rule - and it was CHECKMATE (both answer and victory cry).
                        Though your MOAT is a gambit to which I haven't found a winning response yet.
                        • benchen71 constructor · 2023-07-13T03:00:26.297Z
                          That was how I imagined the path to the solution would go. But it's always tricky for the constructor to know if it will work out that way!
                        • Qmark 3s · 2023-07-13T02:06:35.199Z
                          Loved it...thanks Ben!
                          • HeadinHome 🤓3:53 · 2023-07-13T02:54:47.785Z
                            WOW that took forever to figure out! I solved on PDF first and thought the odd numbering system would be some kind of clue… then did again on Crosshare and figured out that was probably just the way they had to be numbered for the software to work. Then I was sure we were playing tic-tac-toe, then I was sure we were playing with colors (black BEAR, gray AREA) …. what led me to look for similar conditions in the other little grids I do not know, but there it was! A great meta idea, and a great challenge to literally think outside the little boxes!
                            • benchen71 constructor · 2023-07-13T05:11:35.537Z
                              I was trying to channel my inner madhatter!
                            • Berto 🤓2:34 · 2023-07-13T04:34:28.626Z
                              Agree with the below (again, @woozy?!) not sure I fully understand the metanism, but went with letters that I could pull out and leave valid 3-letter words behind. And once I saw something chess related, bingo.
                              • benchen71 constructor · 2023-07-13T05:11:06.700Z
                                That's the method!
                              • MatthewL 🤓6:29 · 2023-07-13T17:39:44.122Z
                                This one was a toughie for me. Needed a nudge to get me across the line. That having been said -- great puzzle (once I saw it)! Query though -- what is the derivation of 5D? Never heard that term before.
                                • benchen71 constructor · 2023-07-13T22:53:01.603Z
                                  It's an Aussie slang word from my childhood. My guess is it's derived from "passion"?
                                • merlinnimue 🤓6:25 · 2023-07-13T23:39:57.004Z
                                  Cheers, mate! Gl on your thesis, but I'm sure you don't need any luck: I wouldn't have been smart enough to make such genius puzzles while writing my thesis... hell, I'm not smart enough to write any puzzle while I'm not writing one now!
                                  • Carolyn 4s · 2023-07-15T19:57:07.485Z
                                    Very clever! Thank goodness for hints :)
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                                    Sporting decision-makers, for short
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                                    Across
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                                      Sporting decision-makers, for short
                                    2. 5A
                                      Pustule resulting from an eruptive disease
                                    3. 9A
                                      "___ Good Men"
                                    4. 13A
                                      Farsi-speaking country
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                                      Muscle soreness
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                                      ___ noire (bane)
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                                      Craps table rollers
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                                      Wearing footwear
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                                      Den hibernator
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                                      Fangorn, Beechbone, Bregalad, Fimbrethil, Finglas, and Fladrif
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                                      "___ it going?"
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                                      Up to no good (or bad)
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                                      Share a border with
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                                      Mgr.'s helper
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                                      Magazine that names the "Person of the Year"
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                                      Planetary center
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                                      Medieval weapon
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                                      "The sons of the Prophet were brave men and bold and quite unaccustomed to fear. But the bravest by far in the ranks of the Shah was Abdul Abulbul ___"
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                                      OSX scheduling software
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                                      Canal of song
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                                      Irene ___ of "Fame" fame
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                                      Broad valley
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                                      Hummus and taramosalata, for two
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                                      Zeroes and ___ (binary digits)
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                                      Tennis great Arthur ___
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                                      Taiwanese computer manufacturer
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                                      Egyptian snakes
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                                      Greek earth goddess
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                                      Something to scratch
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                                      Large boat
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                                      An Eastender 58 across with these
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                                      Painter played by Kingsley in a recent movie
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                                      Wallow in sadness
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                                      Absent from a place
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                                      Susan ___ (voice of Meg in Disney's "Hercules")
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                                      Lake edge plant
                                    Down
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                                      Hitchhiker's hope
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                                      The Emerald Isle
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                                      Indisputable truth
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                                      Sega Genesis alternative, for short
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                                      Aussie slang for snog (which is British slang for kiss)
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                                      Eight, in Spain
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                                      Food, informally
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                                      Sneaker brand since 1916
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                                      "Broad City" actress ___ Jacobson
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                                      Provide nourishment
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                                      ... and too many other authors to mention them all by name (abbr.)
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                                      "If I ___ a Rich Man"
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                                      Low-pH substance
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                                      ___ Raton, FL
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                                      River to the Caspian
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                                      "T" of TV
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                                      Copied
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                                      iPhone voice
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                                      Golfer's pegs
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                                      Crunchy Mexican food
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                                      Somali-born supermodel
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                                      Peat-forming place
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                                      Historic periods
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                                      Pass over
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                                      ___ 51
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                                      "Killing Eve" actress Fiona ___
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                                      Daughter of 55 across
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                                      Not difficult
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                                      White House staffer
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                                      Male deer
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                                      Alma mater of 43 across
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                                      Vulnerable part of a soccer player
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                                      Whispery YouTube genre
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                                      Footwear
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                                      Conduit under a sink
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                                      Went fast
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