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· By DrTom · Published 2024-03-20T11:30:34.737Z

Meta Prompt
The meta answer is something you might find yourself uncomfortable in
I am going to go out on a limb and declare this one a Kitten (as opposed to going out on a limb to retrieve a kitten). My two testers got it right off the bat and both said it was a nice, calm trip to the end.
This puzzle was inspired by something I have tried to use to solve countless puzzles, and been wrong. So, figured I, why not finally use it...and I did.
The meta answer is something you might find yourself uncomfortable in.
Thanks to Meg and Cinny who were my experimental group, to the technical support of Joe Ross, and to the forum moderators (Kay, Mark Bob and Peter). What a wonderful group we have.
Kitten ■
Calico
Persian
Puma
Lion
There will be nudges Friday (if needed)
It's Friday!
NUDGES:
Nudge 1] The meta answer is 6 letters long. Don't miss a letter or you will find yourself in something else you might feel uncomfortable in.
Nudge 2] Symmetry, you know how we love symmetry!
Nudge 3] The "dead center" in itself is not much of a help, but taken with its "qualifier"...
Nudge 4] What you need to see is not uncommon in puzzles, but it is uncommon here in that it is ONLY in theme words.
The REVEAL:
The title of the puzzle is "Crowded" and clues 41 and 52 across were designed to evoke the old saying "Two's company and three's a crowd".
Six grid answers, symmetrically placed, have a letter in them repeated three times.
TATTLE = T
HASHISH = H
MIRROR = R
COCOON = O
INNINGS = N
GAGGLE = G
Taken in GRID order it spells the word THRONG, the meta answer
For a more complete discussion and a graphic of the solve please go to:
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Leaderboard (updated hourly)

  • woozy solved 2024-03-20T06:11:30.056Z
  • DebbieC solved 2024-03-20T06:30:32.919Z
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  • woozy 🤓12:43 · 2024-03-20T11:30:34.737Z
    Cool! When you told me it was a kitten I was afraid I'd need thirty nudges over the next seven days and never get it.
    This maybe would have been harder except you gave just the right hints.
    • DrTom constructor · 2024-03-20T20:46:27.830Z
      Thank you for solving and for the kind words. Yes I HATE it when someone says kitten and I see a snarling mass of claws and teeth.
    • DebbieC 19:42 · 2024-03-20T11:30:34.737Z
      Lovely puzzle, thanks. Great title and tie-in to grid nudges.
      • Laura M 🤓11:40 · 2024-03-20T11:30:34.737Z
        Would have also fit the prompt without the "R" :-)
        • LarsCaine 🤓26:36 · 2024-03-20T14:22:07.040Z
          😂
          • DrTom constructor · 2024-03-20T14:41:46.079Z
            Funny! This is one of the nudges I created when I was making the puzzle, should they be necessary:
            The meta answer is 6 letters long. Don't miss a letter or you will find yourself in something else you might feel uncomfortable in.
            Thank you for solving (and you comment fit to a T😂)
          • Berto 2s · 2024-03-20T11:30:34.737Z
            The picture above ties it all together lol. Nice and easy, a Himalayan kitten, maybe?
            • Pair O Ducks 🤓10:48 · 2024-03-20T11:30:34.737Z
              Excellent puzzle! Almost got distracted by the "crowds" in some clues, but I knew you wouldn't break symmetry willy-nilly. Great start to the day!
              • DrTom constructor · 2024-03-20T14:37:58.591Z
                Hmmm, I thought I only had "crowd" in the clue about "a crowd of honkers" and that was intentional because a GAGGLE had the three G's? If I had it elsewhere then, par for the course Tom. Thanks for solving, I am still working on yours.
                • Pair O Ducks 🤓10:48 · 2024-03-20T16:10:46.006Z
                  I don't think you did, have no fear! But I did try to tie in "cast of thousands" and MOSH pit before seeing the real path. Anything can be a "crowd" to my tired morning meta brain 😂
              • hoover 7s · 2024-03-20T12:34:42.724Z
                I've done enough of these that I know now to look at the picture first. Unfortunately, while I saw the three women in light blue/teal at the front, all I saw for the rest was twins, so at first I found myself plucking out the doubled letters, a mechanism we all try that never works. That led to an unsatisfyingly asymmetrical ESTRREE... so I backtracked to the THREE clue in the middle. Kitten for sure, except maybe the northwest corner of the grid, where I had 3D, 4D, 13A correct, but I also had 16A MESS and 20D OUI so I couldn't figure out what 19A was supposed to be.
                • Meg 13s · 2024-03-20T13:27:29.521Z
                  Did I test solve this? I remember commenting that 37a does not refer to places, which you disagreed with. Anyway, it was a lovely solve (again!)
                  • DrTom constructor · 2024-03-20T14:32:33.979Z
                    You did, and we had the USO discussion. The USO is an organization to be sure, but GI's (and military families) refer to the individual buildings where they are "housed" (like in airports in the US and in ports of call in Europe) as USOs. So this is a lovely, "we are both right". Thanks for doing it again!
                  • boharr 10s · 2024-03-20T13:42:11.010Z
                    Had me going there for a bit. Thanks, DrTom.
                    • DrTom constructor · 2024-03-20T20:45:11.076Z
                      Well then, my work here is done.
                    • MatthewL 🤓7:25 · 2024-03-20T14:06:45.314Z
                      Nice and breezy, as promised. 1D gave me a chuckle. Thanks for the puzzle, Tom!
                      • DrTom constructor · 2024-03-20T20:44:49.181Z
                        Thank you for solving!
                      • Bird Lives 3s · 2024-03-20T14:22:17.998Z
                        My first answer was incorrect -- a typo: THONG. But the prompt is "something you might find yourself uncomfortable in," and for me, it's more accurate than the accepted answer. Your mileage may vary.
                        • DrTom constructor · 2024-03-20T20:41:10.703Z
                          See my comment to Laura M above. I will not say I did not consider that would happen. I mean I could, but it is me, who would believe me....
                        • rjy 2s · 2024-03-20T14:40:28.266Z
                          I also looked to the image first, and with the title and the notion that three's a crowd, I immediately assumed the answer would be THREESOME - certainly something I might find myself uncomfortable in.
                          Pardon the oversharing 😉
                          • DrTom constructor · 2024-03-20T20:39:46.607Z
                            Especially if in Bird Lives' THONG😂🤣😂
                            • rjy 2s · 2024-03-20T22:23:23.903Z
                              Well if i get to wear a thong…… 🤣🤣🤣
                          • Carolyn 2s · 2024-03-20T14:58:18.944Z
                            Nice!
                            • DrTom constructor · 2024-03-20T20:42:47.885Z
                              Thank you!
                            • Ergcat 18:18 · 2024-03-20T15:48:24.457Z
                              Yes! Finally a meta where we get to use double or triple letters in words! Love it!
                              • DrTom constructor · 2024-03-20T20:42:20.262Z
                                I mean it is a thing I ALWAYS try so...
                                • Ergcat 18:18 · 2024-03-20T23:44:55.677Z
                                  Me, too! Thank you for finally using it!
                              • Sharkicicles 2s · 2024-03-20T15:31:50.948Z
                                Always doctor’s orders I’m glad to follow.
                                • Mwoychick 14:47 · 2024-03-20T15:40:33.337Z
                                  Good one, Dr. Tom - very enjoyable - thank you!
                                  • whimsy 18:14 · 2024-03-20T16:05:23.634Z
                                    Well, of course I had to start out on the wrong (left?) foot with MUSE... but then things fell into place. Thanks for something fun and easy, peasy, breezy!
                                    • DrTom constructor · 2024-03-20T20:47:36.830Z
                                      I'm missing something, MUSE? Thank you for solving though.
                                      • whimsy 18:14 · 2024-03-21T01:57:33.547Z
                                        1A Source of inspiration -- MUSE instead of LUNG -- and of course the U starting USUAL (2D) "verified" it for me.
                                        I figured you did that on purpose to trip us up! :-)
                                        • DrTom constructor · 2024-03-22T03:27:28.786Z
                                          No, but I LIKE it. Don't be surprised if it shows up at some point....just don't breathe a word to anyone.
                                    • HeadinHome 🤓12:59 · 2024-03-20T15:59:47.770Z
                                      A nice smooth fill and a clever but gettable mech… good Wednesday lunchtime meta!
                                      • DrTom constructor · 2024-03-20T20:43:54.997Z
                                        Hopefully dessert? Thank you for solving!
                                      • ajk 🤓8:44 · 2024-03-20T17:32:22.439Z
                                        spent some time looking for trios in the clues before I dialed it back. Fun one, thanks.
                                        • DrTom constructor · 2024-03-20T20:44:24.428Z
                                          Sometimes I gotta switch it up!
                                        • Dave C 3s · 2024-03-20T21:13:31.267Z
                                          Unusual for me - I solved it before I finished the grid and even before I had the final theme answer.
                                          • DrTom constructor · 2024-03-20T22:01:30.719Z
                                            Well I am delighted to be the exception to the rule! Thanks for solving!
                                          • KayW 🤓7:07 · 2024-03-20T22:18:33.996Z
                                            Very cute!! And a kitten as promised. Thanks so much Dr Tom!
                                            • DrTom constructor · 2024-03-21T02:48:01.440Z
                                              I'm glad you liked it dear friend, I fear I have had some that turned out to be, though not intentionally, doozies of late. This one has had a LOT of fans.
                                            • Qmark 4s · 2024-03-21T01:34:06.353Z
                                              Fun one! Thanks DrTom!
                                              • DrTom constructor · 2024-03-21T02:48:31.741Z
                                                Thanks for solving!
                                              • Tyrpmom 2s · 2024-03-21T01:34:36.080Z
                                                I like this level of difficulty. Thanks.
                                                • DrTom constructor · 2024-03-21T02:49:01.822Z
                                                  I'll have to shoot for more of these! Thank you for solving!
                                                • Alvibu67 2s · 2024-03-21T04:55:46.535Z
                                                  Thanks for the puzzle, DrTom!
                                                  • kurtalert 🤓9:58 · 2024-03-21T17:34:52.995Z
                                                    Love a quick solve - enjoyed this, thanks DrTom!
                                                    • imontoo 4s · 2024-03-21T19:20:22.914Z
                                                      Had the same thought as Laura M. 😂 Thanks for the easy lob, Tom!
                                                      • DrTom constructor · 2024-03-21T21:34:05.630Z
                                                        As I said before, I could deny that even entered my mind...but nobody (including me) would believe me.
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                                                      Across
                                                      1. 1A
                                                        Source of inspiration
                                                      2. 5A
                                                        Keats' soon
                                                      3. 9A
                                                        Long fish
                                                      4. 13A
                                                        Twin who struck a bad bargain for lentils
                                                      5. 14A
                                                        Bargain prefix
                                                      6. 15A
                                                        The "place" to find the "This is the place" monument
                                                      7. 16A
                                                        Tempest
                                                      8. 17A
                                                        Casey of Top 40 fame
                                                      9. 18A
                                                        Where to score a Cohiba or Montecristo
                                                      10. 19A
                                                        Rat out your sibling
                                                      11. 21A
                                                        Concentrated cannabis
                                                      12. 23A
                                                        Foxy
                                                      13. 24A
                                                        Hub of activity
                                                      14. 26A
                                                        Police blotter factoid
                                                      15. 27A
                                                        Promises on paper
                                                      16. 29A
                                                        "Snow White" fairness judge
                                                      17. 33A
                                                        Blows it
                                                      18. 37A
                                                        Places for a G.I. to find RNR
                                                      19. 39A
                                                        Shred
                                                      20. 40A
                                                        Hacienda hand, maybe
                                                      21. 41A
                                                        One more than 52A
                                                      22. 43A
                                                        Berth place
                                                      23. 44A
                                                        A real fan of
                                                      24. 45A
                                                        Noticed
                                                      25. 46A
                                                        Examine
                                                      26. 47A
                                                        1985 fantasy flick for senior citizens
                                                      27. 50A
                                                        Problem for the Tinman
                                                      28. 52A
                                                        Company, so they say
                                                      29. 53A
                                                        Easy accomplishment in the kitchen?
                                                      30. 54A
                                                        A way to end sex
                                                      31. 57A
                                                        There are usually 9 in a baseball game
                                                      32. 61A
                                                        A crowd of honkers
                                                      33. 63A
                                                        Don Juan, e.g.
                                                      34. 64A
                                                        Pre-assumed fact
                                                      35. 67A
                                                        Flair
                                                      36. 68A
                                                        Makes a choice
                                                      37. 69A
                                                        Lightbulbs often denote them
                                                      38. 70A
                                                        Decomposes
                                                      39. 71A
                                                        Home, informally
                                                      40. 72A
                                                        Barbershop call
                                                      41. 73A
                                                        Pit area at a concert
                                                      Down
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                                                        What you can get if you deny people their rights.
                                                      2. 2D
                                                        Standard fare
                                                      3. 3D
                                                        Foul
                                                      4. 4D
                                                        Burst of wind
                                                      5. 5D
                                                        Short form of "Obamacare"
                                                      6. 6D
                                                        Refusals
                                                      7. 7D
                                                        What 15A has that 21A definitely does not
                                                      8. 8D
                                                        Polite turndown
                                                      9. 9D
                                                        Mass consumption?
                                                      10. 10D
                                                        Needle case mainly seen in crosswords
                                                      11. 11D
                                                        Glucose, cholesterol and calcium, for short
                                                      12. 12D
                                                        Literally, "king"
                                                      13. 14D
                                                        Squeaks by
                                                      14. 20D
                                                        Elle's counterpart
                                                      15. 22D
                                                        Snowboard alternative
                                                      16. 25D
                                                        Beans with a Duke for a spokesperson
                                                      17. 28D
                                                        Twice as annoyed
                                                      18. 30D
                                                        Rendition of Macbeth
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                                                        Name that has risen to great heights
                                                      20. 32D
                                                        Absorbed
                                                      21. 33D
                                                        Movie with a "cast of thousands"
                                                      22. 34D
                                                        Second best place to lose money in Nevada
                                                      23. 35D
                                                        Campus military org.
                                                      24. 36D
                                                        Maximally haughty
                                                      25. 38D
                                                        Escort to the penthouse
                                                      26. 42D
                                                        Newest Annapolis graduates
                                                      27. 48D
                                                        Possess
                                                      28. 49D
                                                        Bean
                                                      29. 51D
                                                        Boston harbor contaminant
                                                      30. 54D
                                                        Block house?
                                                      31. 55D
                                                        Blind parts
                                                      32. 56D
                                                        Nice guy at a seder
                                                      33. 57D
                                                        Smooth out
                                                      34. 58D
                                                        "Forget it!"
                                                      35. 59D
                                                        Almonds and cashews
                                                      36. 60D
                                                        One-sixth of a cube
                                                      37. 62D
                                                        Start of an idea
                                                      38. 65D
                                                        Annoy
                                                      39. 66D
                                                        Consume
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