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· By Bird Lives · Published 2023-06-19T12:00:44.909Z

Meta Prompt
The answer is a 9-letter word indicating what you have to do to the theme entries. [NOTE: There are two errors in the puzzle. One of the theme words (72A is not a perfect version of the mechanism. And the order ofhte 7th and 8th letters of the answer is reversed.]
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  • boharr 3s · 2023-06-19T12:20:38.350Z
    Nice one, thanks.
    • rjy 2s · 2023-06-19T12:43:20.153Z
      Enjoyed it, Jay, and even after getting the metanism, it was still a fun challenge… not sure I got them all tho. Touché mapped to…?? Was that “shoot” as in 1A?
      • Bird Lives constructor · 2023-06-19T13:33:29.011Z
        Yes, I thought TOUCHE - SHOOT was close enough. As I said in the intro, it wasn't easy finding good ones and then squeezing 18 entries into the grid.
        • ajk 9:07 · 2023-06-19T16:38:30.134Z
          I presume that warning note in the intro is supposed to reference 72A not 71A?
      • KayW 🤓8:30 · 2023-06-19T13:05:46.400Z
        Fun one! After one funny (to me) mistranslation. My first thought was TOUCHE -> TUSH -> OLDASS (And I beg to differ on the latter's clue definition!) Thanks Jay
        • rjy 2s · 2023-06-19T14:27:57.856Z
          From Jay's muggle name and occasional clueing, I take it he's an aficionado of music, perhaps more from the last century than this. So I read that as OLDies ASSessor...
          • Bird Lives constructor · 2023-06-19T15:41:41.440Z
            TUSH is good. I checked Clue Database,, which has logged 164 appearances. The "Cry of disgust" clues are from long ago; more recent ones include things like "Moon shot."
            • KayW 🤓8:30 · 2023-06-21T23:34:32.700Z
              Except that TUSH in PORCUS is USHTAY, not TOUCHE. haha. Which goes to show how hard it is to come up with these words. Well done!
          • Hector 11:09 · 2023-06-19T13:41:34.253Z
            Feeling thick this Monday morning. Is there a mechanism from SANTA (and/or LIST) to TRANSLATE, or just picking the natural word for pig-latin transformation, or did I get off track somewhere?
            • Hector 11:09 · 2023-06-19T14:10:39.728Z
              Never mind, I did miss all but the *AY themers. Wow, impressive!
              • Bird Lives constructor · 2023-06-19T15:50:21.578Z
                Thanks. But does this mean that you got the answer without using the themers? That's impressive.
              • Tom Wilson 10:04 · 2023-06-19T14:12:22.115Z
                Such a fun way to start the week. Thanks, Jay!
                • imontoo 3s · 2023-06-19T14:36:45.124Z
                  Enjoyed it! Thanks, Jay!
                  • Wendy Walker 6s · 2023-06-19T15:00:35.679Z
                    Fun MMM, Jay! 8A was a new word for me. I had trouble with that Pig Latin puzzle a few weeks ago, so the 11D clue really stuck out -- and simultaneously I realized how many "Y's" I was writing in.
                    • Bird Lives constructor · 2023-06-19T15:43:48.116Z
                      Do you mean the Pig Latin part of the Cox-Rathvon variety puzzle? I think we had only one in common - underway. I put "real Latin" in that clue since I figue that everyone would have already figured out the Pig Latin theme.
                    • THC 🤓1:47 · 2023-06-19T15:42:15.206Z
                      Thanks, Jay!
                      • kymike 2s · 2023-06-19T16:00:09.128Z
                        Not only did we have to think about this one, we had to work as well. Missing one piece, but able to backsolve.
                        • Berto 🤓3:46 · 2023-06-19T15:58:36.617Z
                          So I got there, but may have mistranslated at some point. I used Hargitay>Target>Aim, but with AtBay>Bat>Tool and Esme>Mess>Eats that gave me Transltae - or is that part of the pig Latin lol?
                          • woozy 12:21 · 2023-06-19T18:26:12.855Z
                            How did you get the R in TRANS and how did you avoid ESTEE> STAY > STET and the very end. Is ESTEE = STAY supposed to somehow become an R In RAWER, RAN, or RATE?
                          • ajk 9:07 · 2023-06-19T16:40:43.958Z
                            Guessed the answer almost immediately, but needed to work it out of course. Like Hector, I initially was stuck with just the *AY entries (quite fiendish that they spell a coherent word on their own :)). Still not 100% sure I mapped everything correct because I had TOOL and AIM which seem not quite in grid order. Regardless, fun stuff, thanks.
                            • Bird Lives constructor · 2023-06-19T20:12:42.279Z
                              You're right, of course. That must have happened in the switch from one revision to the next, and I didn't notice it.
                              • ajk 9:07 · 2023-06-19T23:07:15.027Z
                                No sweat. I was hoping it was something like that and not me being obtuse :)
                            • woozy 12:21 · 2023-06-19T16:54:13.022Z
                              Hmm... I get TANSTALES. Where is the R? Ran?
                              I get TOUCHE = SHOOT =TAPE = T
                              UNDERWAY = WONDER =AWE = A
                              ASTHRAY = TRASH = NOISE = N
                              OUTLAY = LOUT = SLOB = S
                              ATBAY =BAT =TOOL =T
                              HARGITAY (no idea who that is) = TARGET = AIM = A
                              EPEE = PAY (this was the hardest for me to sound out) = LOAN TO = L
                              ESME =MESS = EATS (so close to TRASH... I struggled with this one the most) = E
                              ESTEE = STAY = STET = S
                              So what am I getting wrong.
                              • Bird Lives constructor · 2023-06-19T17:58:07.772Z
                                ESTEE - TEST - RATE
                                • woozy 12:21 · 2023-06-19T19:10:37.280Z
                                  Okay, but what about the order?
                                  • Bird Lives constructor · 2023-06-19T20:13:28.377Z
                                    Yeah, I messed up the order. That must have happened in the switch from one revision to the next, and I didn't notice it.
                                • Bird Lives constructor · 2023-06-19T21:18:03.549Z
                                  PAY is LOOT ("Money in one form.")
                                  • woozy 12:21 · 2023-06-20T01:18:17.042Z
                                    An awesome puzzle all in all!
                                  • Mwoychick 🤓11:05 · 2023-06-19T17:22:04.669Z
                                    Fun puzzle, as always - thank you, Jay!
                                    • Cindy Heisler 3s · 2023-06-19T17:33:59.391Z
                                      I have to admit that I solved this with help from my husband. I am not good at, and never think of, Pig Latin --- even with the huge hint in the title! But after he told me that, it was a smooth solve. Thanks, Jay!
                                      • minimuggle 🤓15:47 · 2023-06-19T18:31:49.991Z
                                        wonderful puzzle. thanks
                                        • MatthewL 🤓8:10 · 2023-06-19T19:05:41.292Z
                                          Fun one. Took me quite a while to figure out what was going on, but finally got there. Could not figure out TOUCHE (SHTEW was what I was coming up with), but got the other 8 and it was obvious what it was. Thanks Jay!
                                          • whimsy 17:22 · 2023-06-19T19:39:37.631Z
                                            Still a little fuzzy on the tail end of the piggy. But with the prompt and enough letters I took a reasonable guess that panned out. Will be glad to examine it even more closely once the dust settles. Thanks for an entertaining refresher course, Jay!
                                            • Bird Lives constructor · 2023-06-19T21:16:30.763Z
                                              Please don't examine it closely. The mistake in construction will only appear that much more egregious.
                                            • Carolyn 3s · 2023-06-19T20:45:11.790Z
                                              Very fun! Guessed the answer but then worked it out.
                                              • Eric Porter 8s · 2023-06-20T16:16:03.154Z
                                                I also guessed the answer because I was having a little trouble translating all of them back. My next step would have been to look for other clues matching it.
                                              • Capn Rick 8:29 · 2023-06-19T21:42:33.458Z
                                                Loved the metanism, Jay! I may have to borrow it someday. :)
                                                • DrTom 3s · 2023-06-19T21:57:57.539Z
                                                  Well I certainly did it the hard way (or ardhay away) because I KNEW you were talking about "pig latin" (though you technically had piglet in Latin, not pig) and then you emphasized "real" Latin. BUT, I got LOUT = SLOB, WUNDER = ?AWE, BAT = TOOL and then slid into trouble since there is actually a RASHT and a THARGI. But since there were some that went across ok and I had to translate them and translate is a 9 letter word, I took a shot. I like your real mechanism though I had not thought about sounding them out in addition to them being pig latin since some were actually as the "real" pig Latin way. Fun on a Monday (or Unfay On A Ondaymay)
                                                  • ReB 3s · 2023-06-19T22:42:42.659Z
                                                    The puzzle started out well, but I got bogged down with determining several of the translations and corresponding synonyms. I initially got seven letters (two of which turned out to be erroneously derived), which when I put them into grid order were enough to indicate the answer word.
                                                    Between the comments here and grueling backsolving, I now think I have derviations for eight letters, but I'm not sure about how you derived the second T, from ATBAY to BAT to ?? | TOOL is the most logical synonym, but it precedes AIM; TOUCHE, the only T-word after AIM, doesn't make sense and is also the 9th themer).
                                                    I suppose I will have to await the reveal to make it all clear. But overall the puzzle was not a very satisfying experience for me. That doesn't take away, though, from your ingenious construction.
                                                    • Bird Lives constructor · 2023-06-20T01:09:38.057Z
                                                      In the revised intro on the x0muggles board, I added that the the order of two of the letters is inverted, -- the A (from AIM) and T (from TOOL)..
                                                    • Ergcat 2:27 · 2023-06-20T00:19:30.829Z
                                                      Fun one! I knew it was pig Latin right away. Found the 9 themers to “translate” but had a little struggle with a few of them (epee, estee , and touché). Finally able to backsolve, though.
                                                      • HeadinHome 🤓19:23 · 2023-06-20T01:34:59.089Z
                                                        Got stuck at “shtoo??” but had _RANSLATE, so close enough! Now I’ll be noticing igpay atinlay words all week… anksthay.
                                                        • DrTom 3s · 2023-06-20T02:45:23.537Z
                                                          unnyfay!
                                                        • DrTom 3s · 2023-06-20T02:46:23.870Z
                                                          Wow, wish I had known this existed:
                                                          • Laura M 🤓17:57 · 2023-06-20T03:38:05.964Z
                                                            Fun, love the title!
                                                            1A
                                                            Make a video
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                                                            Across
                                                            1. 1A
                                                              Make a video
                                                            2. 5A
                                                              Went quickly
                                                            3. 8A
                                                              Black tourmaline
                                                            4. 14A
                                                              Ritz rival
                                                            5. 15A
                                                              Amazement
                                                            6. 16A
                                                              Money spent
                                                            7. 17A
                                                              In progress
                                                            8. 19A
                                                              Says hello
                                                            9. 20A
                                                              They cross aves.
                                                            10. 21A
                                                              They all might be bought before spinning
                                                            11. 23A
                                                              First name in cosmetics (and crosswords)
                                                            12. 24A
                                                              Ernie's roomie
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                                                              Santa checks his twice
                                                            14. 27A
                                                              Salinger girl
                                                            15. 30A
                                                              Lets slip the dogs, war or no
                                                            16. 32A
                                                              Phoenix hoopsters
                                                            17. 36A
                                                              Where kids can often be found come summer
                                                            18. 39A
                                                              Berlin negative
                                                            19. 41A
                                                              ___ de plume
                                                            20. 42A
                                                              Type of fly that could send someone home
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                                                              Receptacle once common in living rooms
                                                            22. 45A
                                                              Home to the girl from Ipanema
                                                            23. 46A
                                                              Even if, shortly
                                                            24. 47A
                                                              Well-known actress who played Hoffman's girlfriend in "Tootsie"
                                                            25. 48A
                                                              Most enormous
                                                            26. 50A
                                                              Uncouth and unkempt fellow
                                                            27. 52A
                                                              Money in one form
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                                                              Fencer's choice
                                                            29. 55A
                                                              International Metaphysical Ministry people (yeah, just put in the letters)
                                                            30. 57A
                                                              It's used to build a website
                                                            31. 60A
                                                              Cornered, held back
                                                            32. 63A
                                                              Cut, as logs
                                                            33. 65A
                                                              Put in the crosshairs
                                                            34. 68A
                                                              Give (someone) with interest
                                                            35. 70A
                                                              Longtime co-worker with Meloni, Wong, Belzer, et al.
                                                            36. 72A
                                                              What a 54A loser might say often
                                                            37. 73A
                                                              Couples cruise ship
                                                            38. 74A
                                                              Meals, e.g., for the miliatary
                                                            39. 75A
                                                              Like your humble constructor, slangily
                                                            40. 76A
                                                              K-pop group
                                                            41. 77A
                                                              "Leave it the way it was"
                                                            Down
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                                                              Like so
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                                                              "___ Misbehavin'"
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                                                              Most university profs
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                                                              Job posting addendum, abbr.
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                                                              Less refined
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                                                              Lies ahead
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                                                              R&B singer ("So Sick")
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                                                              Waterlog
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                                                              Remedies
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                                                              Tryouts that usually bomb
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                                                              Pecunia non ___ (real Latin for "money doesn't smell")
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                                                              Assess
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                                                              Dissolve, as cells
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                                                              "Norma ___"
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                                                              Gut problem
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                                                              Arthur of "Maude"
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                                                              Thomas with many Motown records
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                                                              Bridge positions
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                                                              Leslie on CBS
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                                                              Marilyn of The 5th Dimension
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                                                              101 at uni
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                                                              Ours is Linda Thomas-Greenfield, briefly
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                                                              Stuff in the system you want to remove
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                                                              Whacked, Bible style
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                                                              GQ or Inc.
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                                                              One of 150 in the Bible
                                                            27. 40D
                                                              Greenwich Village campus
                                                            28. 44D
                                                              Start for Perot
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                                                              Hair gunk
                                                            30. 51D
                                                              Mick's ex (one of them)
                                                            31. 53D
                                                              Stymie
                                                            32. 56D
                                                              Tales that might not be true
                                                            33. 58D
                                                              Caicos neighbor
                                                            34. 59D
                                                              Auto info not available for a Tesla
                                                            35. 60D
                                                              Cannonball's horn (and mine, once)
                                                            36. 61D
                                                              Useful wooden object
                                                            37. 62D
                                                              Unit of data transmission
                                                            38. 64D
                                                              Captain with a whalebone leg
                                                            39. 65D
                                                              Rat ___
                                                            40. 66D
                                                              "I can't believe ___ the whole thing"
                                                            41. 67D
                                                              Island for gamers
                                                            42. 69D
                                                              Some plural endings
                                                            43. 71D
                                                              Some other plural endings
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