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· By benchen71 · Published 2023-06-20T06:00:29.034Z

Meta Prompt
The answer to the meta is next in the system
This puzzle was originally created as a themed crossword. But then I realised it could also work as a meta, with minimal editing required. So here it is! The answer to the meta is next in the system. Answer & explanation: https://www.xword-muggles.com/viewtopic.php?p=133726#p133726
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  • woozy 17:55 · 2023-06-20T08:54:50.574Z
    Oh I get it. That's clever but... well, mechanical.
    • rjy 2s · 2023-06-20T14:11:57.727Z
      Fun one, and a better construction than I realized since I totally whiffed on EARTH - got Natick'ed by misspelling WANE as WAIN for a legit answer to 60D "Diminish, as patience" and just assumed SPAROWERS was some aboriginal thing, because why not?
      • MatthewL 🤓7:28 · 2023-06-20T14:28:44.166Z
        Nice one, Peter! Thanks for the puzzle!
        • MrTheHan 11:23 · 2023-06-20T14:30:14.058Z
          I probably unsurprisingly put JUPITER then J as my first attempts at the meta before tackling it at a different angle, though I'm still trying to work out what the asterisks mean... The rebuses for MARS and EARTH were truly inspired!
          • woozy 17:55 · 2023-06-20T17:53:16.897Z
            I assumed ASTER(ISK)OID. And they are physically on the grid around the perimeter of the puzzle which physically represents the inner solar system. That's all I got though. I got that there were twelve asterisks and there are twelve letters in ASTEROID BELT and eight of the asterisks are across and four are down so I imagine there must be a way to get the across asterisks to spell out the letters of ASTEROID and the down asterisks to spell BELT.
            But I can't get further that. You can spell Adrate Slat Teeth lattE elgaR venusdemilO tonI bleD
            Asteroid but I can't replicate it for belt or come up with a consistent decoding as to which you take the first letters of and which you take the last letters of.
            • MatthewL 🤓7:28 · 2023-06-20T19:31:39.292Z
              I started with the A at 23A, and then, moving clockwise, went thusly: 1A (first letter), 4D (first letter), 9D (first letter), 9A (last letter), 27A (last letter), 47A (last letter), 73A (last letter), 64D (last letter), 41D (last letter), 71A (first letter) and 44A (first letter). I think the idea is, you only use the letters (whether first or last), that are located on the edge of the grid.
              • benchen71 constructor · 2023-06-20T21:20:26.237Z
                That's the way!
                • woozy 17:55 · 2023-06-20T23:04:55.537Z
                  I was wondering about something like that but I was too lazy to play with it. I don't like to waste paper printing these things and if I put nail polish on my screen I have learned that I usually regret it.
                  • woozy 17:55 · 2023-06-20T23:15:46.310Z
                    You know... maybe you could have put asterisks at the end of some of the clues. As the idea is the asterisks are actually supposed to be on the grid and not associated with the clues.
            • MatthewL 🤓7:28 · 2023-06-20T14:30:04.093Z
              Crap -- I meant Ben, of course. Sorry -- need a second cup of coffee before commenting.
              • Carolyn 3s · 2023-06-20T16:49:43.818Z
                Really enjoyed this! I was about to submit JUPITER but decided to try and figure out the asterisks. Glad I did! Very clever!
                • whimsy 🤓15:09 · 2023-06-20T18:16:24.536Z
                  I knew asteroid belt before I found asteroid belt. But find it, I did! Almost two metas in one! Thanks, Ben!
                  • KayW 🤓12:20 · 2023-06-20T17:59:57.072Z
                    Nice one Ben. Count me as one of those who reflexively entered JUPITER as a first guess. Er, submission.
                    • ReB 16s · 2023-06-20T19:32:50.662Z
                      Well executed idea. I figured out the answer from the 42A plus the rebus entries (once I saw was going on with square 27, I was primed to find the others). It was helpful to remember that (1) between Mars and Jupiter is the asteroid belt, (2) Jupiter is not part of the inner solar system [always a good idea to remember to look at the title, which also didn't specify planets] - and of course noting that (3) the letter J does not appear in the grid.
                      However, I needed the comments to nudge me as to how to decode the asterisks. It was neat how you managed to spell out the answer around the perimeter, thereby ringing the inner planets.
                      • HeadinHome 🤓12:28 · 2023-06-20T23:35:54.417Z
                        A complete google guess (after guessing ALL the other planets, and working a looong time with the moons of Jupiter… since ADASTRA is so dang close to one of J’s moons, Adrastrea, and ELGAR is one letter off from anagramming Elara !). NOW I see that the starred answers form the answer if you only the first OR last letter of each (opting for the one that is on the outside ring of the grid). This was challenging!!
                        • benchen71 constructor · 2023-06-21T00:31:44.638Z
                          "Week 3"!
                        • MrTheHan 11:23 · 2023-06-21T00:53:56.641Z
                          • DrTom 3s · 2023-06-21T04:46:07.620Z
                            WOW. I just saw the ASTEROID BELT. Starting with 23 and going around taking the first letter of the 1sr across and last letter of the 2nd across then the last letter of each down (so THAT'S why 9 was repeated!) spells it out .... AMAZING construction because you had a LOT of constraints. Wonder of wonder you could have almost have done it for OUTER SYSTEM except for an unfortunate positioning of the U and T. If those ahd been switched you would have had it. I am IMPRESSED!!!
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                            * Bed support
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                            Across
                            1. 1A
                              * Bed support
                            2. 5A
                              "No ___!" ("Piece of cake!")
                            3. 9A
                              * "Pomp and Circumstance" composer
                            4. 14A
                              Yellowfin, for example
                            5. 15A
                              "Didn't expect to see you!"
                            6. 16A
                              Hot box
                            7. 17A
                              Opposite of plain language, at university
                            8. 19A
                              Pie nut
                            9. 20A
                              Rerson pesponsible for a clue like this?
                            10. 22A
                              Spanish hero, El ___
                            11. 23A
                              * Price for a promo
                            12. 27A
                              * Armless Greek statue
                            13. 29A
                              Lead singer of Queen
                            14. 32A
                              When repeated, an African spreader of sleeping sickness
                            15. 33A
                              "Game of Thrones" actress, ___ Chaplin
                            16. 34A
                              "Dark Angel" actress, Jessica ___
                            17. 36A
                              Goldman's partner
                            18. 40A
                              "Il sole tramonta a ___" ("The 42 across sets in the west")
                            19. 42A
                              Central object of the solar system
                            20. 43A
                              Currently airing
                            21. 44A
                              * Business edge of a saw
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                              Natural balm
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                              * "Un-break My Heart" singer, ___ Braxton
                            24. 48A
                              In media ___
                            25. 50A
                              South-of-the-border outlaws
                            26. 52A
                              "Dr. Zhivago" actor
                            27. 56A
                              Provides food for
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                              Singer, ___ Lipa
                            29. 58A
                              "And we ___ in the Sydney to Hobart yacht race!"
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                              Big name in printers
                            31. 63A
                              Aboriginal tools used to increase the velocity of projectiles
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                              Name of two Chinese dynasties
                            33. 69A
                              "You beat me ___!" (I was going to say that!)
                            34. 70A
                              "Como ___?"
                            35. 71A
                              * 9 down with milk
                            36. 72A
                              Dame known for her lilac-colored hair and cat eye glasses
                            37. 73A
                              * Ran in the wash
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                            1. 1D
                              Railway stop, for short
                            2. 2D
                              Starfleet's Jean-___ Picard
                            3. 3D
                              Santa ___ winds
                            4. 4D
                              * Topher Grace movie, "Win a date with ___ Hamilton!"
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                              Julius Caesar's second or third wife
                            6. 6D
                              Prefix meaning "current"
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                              Very very
                            8. 8D
                              Parisian welcomes
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                              * Steam-brewed coffee
                            10. 10D
                              City on the north coast of Papua New Guinea
                            11. 11D
                              Ridley Scott movie, "House of ___"
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                              "For want of ___ the shoe was lost"
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                              Anonymous person, in slang
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                              Cornerstone abbr.
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                              Summer hrs. in NYC
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                              "The game is ___!" (Sherlock's catch-phrase)
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                              Took the wheel
                            18. 25D
                              Actress, ___ Zellweger
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                              2019 Brad Pitt sci-fi film
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                              Wasn't kidding
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                              Anna's "Frozen" sister
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                              Part of Fahrenheit's thermometer
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                              Dwarf buffalo
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                              $100 bill
                            25. 38D
                              Pay tribute to
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                              Multi-function army knife
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                              * Bruce Hornsby's band, back in the day
                            28. 46D
                              Microsoft product that lost out to Wikipedia
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                              Knight's title
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                              "Banana Boat Song" word
                            31. 52D
                              "Island of the Blue Dolphins" author, Scott ___
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                              Brood pouches found in many Australian animals
                            33. 54D
                              Attacks vigorously
                            34. 55D
                              "Ein ___ Burg ist unser Gott"
                            35. 59D
                              Like two peas in ___
                            36. 60D
                              Diminish, as patience
                            37. 62D
                              Canadian prov.
                            38. 64D
                              * Part of WWW
                            39. 65D
                              Subj. for immigrants, often
                            40. 66D
                              Way to go (abbr.)
                            41. 67D
                              Down in the dumps
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