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Cut from the Same Cloth (DrTom and MikeyG)

· By DrTom · Published 2023-06-28T11:45:16.355Z

Meta Prompt
The answer to the meta is a fitting word
"Be careful what you wish for." Truer words were never spoken. Several times Mike and I have heard "you two are such punsters, you ought to do a puzzle together!". Well Muggledom, that day has arrived, we toiled, we chuckled, we pulled out our absolute best (or worst as the case may be) punning hats and went to town. We even though of asking the past VP to review it because we wanted to spare no Ex Pence!
The result we think is a pretty darn good puzzle and, in our none too humble (to us humility is when the room is too full of hot air) opinions, is a real chuckle or groan fest. If you cannot think of what the clue is getting at you probably need to ask yourself, "now what might these two have been thinking of?" (by the way, if you can do that consistently and get the correct answer, there is reason seek help)
The puzzle is probably a 3 on the pun-ishment scale: (while the puns are a 10 on the puzzlement scale)
Difficulty level:
2 inch slice of Devil's Food (Piece of Cake)
Inventor in Urgent Care (Watt, ICU)
** Like Reddy the cat's partner from the animated series (Kinda Ruff)
Questionable collection of believers (Iffy Cult)
Chance for a church song (Hymn possible)

Nudges will be posted (and if we cannot find enough posts we will use stanchions instead) on Friday and we will be available by PM for direction or interpretation.
Good luck, and believe me we are sure you will be led astray by words intended to deceive.

Nudges - YAY!!!
Nudge 1] As usual the title gives away the mechanism, but admittedly it is subtle here
Nudge 2] The meta answer is 8 letters long
Nudge 3] Sometimes the path lies in the answers, sometimes in the clues, and sometimes...
Nudge 4] Are their 8 things that you might identify as themers based on a characteristic
Nudge 5] When have you EVER known either of us to be succinct?
Checking for previous play data...

Leaderboard (updated hourly)

  • Hector solved 2023-06-28T05:31:33.381Z
  • Meg solved 2023-06-28T12:17:46.944Z
  • boharr solved 2023-06-28T13:49:44.852Z
  • I K Snamhcok solved 2023-06-28T14:05:57.640Z
  • Alex Sisti solved 2023-06-28T14:06:15.071Z
  • Cindy Weatherman solved 2023-06-28T14:49:57.066Z
  • Bird Lives solved 2023-06-28T16:39:38.295Z
  • markhr solved 2023-06-28T16:54:51.218Z
  • ajk solved 2023-06-28T17:30:02.197Z
  • JHSeeman solved 2023-06-28T18:52:51.235Z
  • kurtalert solved 2023-06-28T19:48:56.335Z
  • Tyrpmom solved 2023-06-28T19:51:03.786Z
  • Darrell solved 2023-06-28T19:51:11.784Z
  • heidi solved 2023-06-28T20:03:08.251Z
  • MatthewL solved 2023-06-28T20:50:09.907Z
  • THC solved 2023-06-28T21:38:12.733Z
  • Carolyn solved 2023-06-28T21:38:55.514Z
  • imontoo solved 2023-06-28T22:47:17.326Z
  • Pair O Ducks solved 2023-06-28T23:02:39.626Z
  • Ergcat solved 2023-06-28T23:37:43.191Z
  • whimsy solved 2023-06-29T00:02:08.055Z
  • BarbaraK solved 2023-06-29T01:39:56.307Z
  • HeadinHome solved 2023-06-29T01:49:26.208Z
  • Laura M solved 2023-06-29T08:02:27.327Z
  • lbray53 solved 2023-06-29T11:46:10.776Z
  • Berto solved 2023-06-29T13:23:36.629Z
  • hoover solved 2023-06-29T16:58:24.155Z
  • PuzNewbie solved 2023-06-29T18:57:03.644Z
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  • Dow Jones solved 2023-07-04T05:22:20.257Z
  • DIS solved 2023-07-06T18:38:46.365Z
  • Philip Chow solved 2023-07-30T07:47:00.932Z
  • Darth solved 2023-08-08T03:00:43.372Z

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  • Hector 🤓11:26 · 2023-06-28T11:45:16.355Z
    Fun 'nuf!
    • DrTom constructor · 2023-06-28T12:51:42.840Z
      Releasing that cat was quite an act, you can now brag about the grab and it could even be said from a dais? 😁
      • Hector 🤓11:26 · 2023-06-28T13:52:56.616Z
        Would IDOLATER have been accepted?
        • DrTom constructor · 2023-06-28T15:51:05.022Z
          I probably would have adored that answer, but I'm afraid Crosshare would not have.
    • Meg 2s · 2023-06-28T12:30:01.929Z
      This reminds me of another Dr. Tom puzzle. One of these things is not like the others. Well, maybe more than one.
      • DrTom constructor · 2023-06-28T18:09:13.019Z
        What, reuse a previous idea, certainly not. I may not be an elegant man but I am a gentleman and would not do that. I might come close but not exactly, though this might be an instance where the devil lived in the details. Just as long as you don't become bored, get robed up and make this speel before you sleep.
      • boharr 3s · 2023-06-28T13:50:38.124Z
        HAHA. THANKS
        • Alex Sisti 4s · 2023-06-28T14:06:44.627Z
          Nice one, lads...
          • DrTom constructor · 2023-06-28T17:59:36.056Z
            Thanks Al
          • I K Snamhcok 2s · 2023-06-28T14:08:58.874Z
            What pun!
            • DrTom constructor · 2023-06-28T18:11:42.307Z
              I thought so! As I was getting dressed this morning I thought about it and let out a snicker there in my nickers.
            • Bird Lives 3s · 2023-06-28T16:48:25.601Z
              The pace of my trip to TAILORED: Swift.
              • DrTom constructor · 2023-06-28T17:59:20.771Z
                Did you get there on an eagle's wings or did you take the gull over?
              • ajk 🤓19:41 · 2023-06-28T17:30:25.550Z
                well played sirs
                • JHSeeman 3s · 2023-06-28T18:59:30.206Z
                  missed one, so original put in leotard....oops. really fun grid....love the clues. Thanks
                  • DrTom constructor · 2023-06-29T02:29:22.853Z
                    I tried putting on a leotard and wanted to keep it a secret but a delator ratted me out
                  • Tyrpmom 4s · 2023-06-28T19:55:11.270Z
                    Very punny stuff. Thanks.
                    • MatthewL 🤓23:06 · 2023-06-28T20:52:27.734Z
                      Well done, gents! Nice symmetry. Favorite clue? 42A. Just my level of humor.
                      • DrTom constructor · 2023-06-29T02:56:25.517Z
                        Well merci me! That was actually one of the first jokes I got when I was a kid trying to study French. Three felines are floating past Notre Dame on a log in the middle of the river when it rolled over. The following day in the Paris Match the headline was: Un, Deux, Trois Cat's Sank!!!
                      • Carolyn 🤓1:29 · 2023-06-28T21:39:59.785Z
                        Took me way too long, with a detour along the way, but finally got there!
                        • DrTom constructor · 2023-06-29T02:21:32.213Z
                          You got routed on a detour - how apropos. Thanks for continuing the trip.
                        • THC 🤓3:23 · 2023-06-28T21:58:01.375Z
                          What a team! What a meta! Thanks DrTom and MikeyG!!
                          • DrTom constructor · 2023-06-29T02:27:44.941Z
                            I love it when an anagram comes together....when you posted what a team, what a meta at me, well....
                          • imontoo 3s · 2023-06-28T22:50:23.425Z
                            After an abysmal fail on Monday’s meta, I am pleased to have gotten this! Brilliant cluing! Two thumbs up, Tom and Mike! One for each of you!
                            • DrTom constructor · 2023-06-29T02:23:36.413Z
                              Probably the fault of the nimrod who constructed Monday's puzzle. That guy really thinks he is first in line and that is an L of a thing...
                              • imontoo 3s · 2023-06-29T02:51:04.158Z
                                Trust me, the nimrodery was on my part. 😄
                            • Ergcat 11:33 · 2023-06-28T23:38:44.193Z
                              Very punny! Thank you !
                              • whimsy 18:28 · 2023-06-29T00:05:48.298Z
                                You guys look just stunning -- while punning. Thanks!
                                • DrTom constructor · 2023-06-29T02:34:44.252Z
                                  It was rapid fire because we were running and gunning while punning but then we went outside so we were sunning and running and gunning while punning. That was fine until Mike realized he had to write out some letters for people who owed him money, then we were dunning while sunning and running and punning. Then Mike said to me, "let's swing past the convent"...it was there I drew the line.
                                • HeadinHome 🤓4:44 · 2023-06-29T02:01:46.525Z
                                  Well the work day has been too long for me to be punny, so I will just say thanks for the fun! It took me forever to get the grid done, but the meta fell just a bit easier.
                                  • DrTom constructor · 2023-06-29T13:15:55.352Z
                                    Yes, that seems to be the consensus; sometimes you have to reach a bit when understanding what the clue is saying but everything is there. With lots of our puzzles, and this one in particular, the rule is "go for the pun or the fun" because if you try to solve them straight you'll be there forever. It is probably more like a cryptic except that we were trying to be amusing not clever. I personally can never solve a whole cryptic because I am looking for the funny and they aren't really designed that way. I mean a puzzle that starts with "Place to get a shot of drum = RIM". and "Part of QED that might be an electronic vermin = ERAT" should have told you all you ever needed to know about how that grid was going to be. Glad you stuck with it, even if it was like the "Riddler's Revenge" roller coaster in Valencia, CA....you know, a puzzling ride! (couldn't leve it alone. could you Tom?)
                                  • Laura M 🤓16:40 · 2023-06-29T08:03:47.233Z
                                    I didn't see it and then I did. Fun, and great cluing!
                                    • DrTom constructor · 2023-06-29T17:09:37.129Z
                                      Of course it was "then I did" because we wanted to keep "it hidden" (sorry that was too good to pass up)
                                    • Berto 🤓2:15 · 2023-06-29T13:27:42.206Z
                                      Spent a lot of time looking for pairs of synonyms / related words in the grid (cut from same cloth), Rodin/Degas, Dye/Rinse, Sega/Atari, Nile/Rio(?) - and Milk/Cream - but the cat didn’t want the cream. But it did make me look at Diary/Dairy and the penny dropped! Fun grid, fun solve, thanks to the pair of you!
                                      • DrTom constructor · 2023-06-29T17:05:52.665Z
                                        What a dastardly little rabbit hole, and we didn't even intend or know about that...though it is certainly not a bad idea, hmm. Thank you for solving, we figured the moment people saw 1 word clues they would say, "Well THAT'S odd for those two, must mean something". Heck we would use at least 4 words to clue one or singular (A type of sensation).
                                      • hoover 3s · 2023-06-29T16:58:41.025Z
                                        My head hurts from all these puns!
                                        • DrTom constructor · 2023-06-29T17:45:04.452Z
                                          Too many puns? Okay next time maybe an antonym opus.
                                        • PuzNewbie 44:21 · 2023-06-29T18:57:55.016Z
                                          So. Many. Groans. I LOVED this puzzle! Meta was good fun, too. Thanks so much! :)
                                          • ReB 3s · 2023-06-29T22:33:18.566Z
                                            Well, I certainly enjoyed deciphering lots of puns TAILORED to the grid entries. Not to mention how you CUT and KNIT back together the key clue words letters into new words, which you manged to FIT in (symmetrically, no less!) as across grid answers. Quite a feat, guys.
                                            • SJMcK 25:50 · 2023-06-30T03:04:06.837Z
                                              ANAGRAM JOKE
                                              • DrTom constructor · 2023-06-30T16:43:03.980Z
                                                Must be military right...aka Major Gen
                                              • Cindy Heisler 2s · 2023-06-30T16:01:16.772Z
                                                This took me many times of putting it down and going back to it - not to mention the many rabbit holes. But I finally got it. You two should do more metas together. Loved the clues!
                                                • Philip Chow 17:30 · 2023-07-30T07:53:38.230Z
                                                  this was sooooooo freakin' good... i laughed at a majority of your puns... IRESTMYCASE, full of trix, room with a vow, and the morbid image of the 5 kitties that cinq... too many favorites.... thank you i needed all 5 nudges
                                                  • DrTom constructor · 2023-07-31T05:57:58.384Z
                                                    Thank you, we probably have even more fun making the clues than our solvers do reading them. Still, we are glad it was entertaining.
                                                  • Darth 🤓29:54 · 2023-08-08T03:08:41.638Z
                                                    Smart puzzle. Enjoyed it! I just solved it... still catching up after being lost in space for 5 weeks. haha
                                                    • DrTom constructor · 2023-08-09T03:38:36.210Z
                                                      Sounds like a meta title!!! Glad you enjoyed it, we had fun making it.
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                                                    Place to get a shot of drum
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                                                    Across
                                                    1. 1A
                                                      Place to get a shot of drum
                                                    2. 4A
                                                      "The Addams Family" hired hand
                                                    3. 9A
                                                      Part of QED that could be an electronic vermin?
                                                    4. 13A
                                                      Heart
                                                    5. 14A
                                                      Asian capital where you pay someone to lead you to tasty soup; fee, find, pho, yum
                                                    6. 15A
                                                      Dairy
                                                    7. 16A
                                                      Gulf port that might help abet?
                                                    8. 17A
                                                      Mary who won an Oscar for playing Brigid O'Shaughnessy in "The Maltese Falcon"
                                                    9. 18A
                                                      Canoe
                                                    10. 19A
                                                      Fighter with a "Sonny" disposition
                                                    11. 21A
                                                      Cub or Phil, e.g.
                                                    12. 23A
                                                      Start of something lude?
                                                    13. 24A
                                                      Turn red in a tub
                                                    14. 26A
                                                      [It's like I just touched an eel because I'm shocked!!!!!]
                                                    15. 29A
                                                      Title for the Grinch or a blue Beatles villain
                                                    16. 31A
                                                      Amtrak train whose name implies the rate at which it gets up to speed
                                                    17. 33A
                                                      Full of tricks (I ate too much cereal - now I'm full of Trix)
                                                    18. 35A
                                                      If your lease on the Bentley runs out, is that the ___ of luxury?
                                                    19. 37A
                                                      Artist famous for his ballerinas (and constantly with his foot on the accelerator)
                                                    20. 38A
                                                      "That last clue hurt!"
                                                    21. 40A
                                                      What you might see above a football stadium if they are having a Good Year
                                                    22. 42A
                                                      What all five cats did when they tried to swim in the Seine
                                                    23. 43A
                                                      You might tell him, "Hey, you're not Sigmund!"
                                                    24. 45A
                                                      If I put plastic on the bottom of the Atlantic would that be an ___ liner?
                                                    25. 47A
                                                      "Did you go to the oxygen convention? It's a ___!"
                                                    26. 48A
                                                      Old mobsters dated high-energy "goils", but this is a high-energy coil
                                                    27. 49A
                                                      "Hurry up! We're going out to the pub for some beef ___ stew!"
                                                    28. 51A
                                                      If your horse does it, you'll end up on it
                                                    29. 52A
                                                      What I was left with when the Brit told me to "Get the L off their land!"
                                                    30. 53A
                                                      Among aging United Daughters of the Confederacy, what might cause a change from gray to blue
                                                    31. 56A
                                                      He didn't have a #16 Billboard Hot 100 hit in 1970, but his roommate did
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                                                      Pieces of eight
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                                                      Walking around money in Mexico
                                                    34. 62A
                                                      "It's elemental, my dear Empedocles"
                                                    35. 65A
                                                      "___ happens", and a pimple certainly does
                                                    36. 66A
                                                      Is a chapel by the seaside a room with ___?
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                                                      Udderly destroy
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                                                      Flower that is often associated with Cleopatra
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                                                      Darling of Dudley Do-Right's desires
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                                                      Teen's secret place
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                                                      Well, it's not PC but he has designs on you
                                                    Down
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                                                      What a thinker!
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                                                      "Clearly, this violin is heavy. So, now, ___"
                                                    3. 3D
                                                      Student to whom I might offer a Mento
                                                    4. 4D
                                                      Olden days, with a Southern twang
                                                    5. 5D
                                                      Type of bro that makes board games
                                                    6. 6D
                                                      It's good for a CFO but bad for a QB
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                                                      Who's laughing at our puns now?
                                                    8. 8D
                                                      Miss going to church
                                                    9. 9D
                                                      Type of suspenders that Dorothy's aunt in the Wizard of Oz accepts enthusiastically
                                                    10. 10D
                                                      1982 Duran Duran hit
                                                    11. 11D
                                                      You can have your Pie___ mode, but it might be ___ carte
                                                    12. 12D
                                                      Buy on B'way
                                                    13. 13D
                                                      Golden State to the hipsters
                                                    14. 20D
                                                      A test you end up talking about
                                                    15. 22D
                                                      "Good golly!"
                                                    16. 24D
                                                      What people might call out, perhaps twice, when the salsa is running out
                                                    17. 25D
                                                      "My wish is your command!"
                                                    18. 27D
                                                      Platform that experienced a Sonic boom
                                                    19. 28D
                                                      What should probably be the main course
                                                    20. 30D
                                                      "Are we gonna apprehend him for that? Nah, let's just turn it around and ban him."
                                                    21. 32D
                                                      Pleas
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                                                      Another adjective for a warm kitty
                                                    23. 34D
                                                      Siren
                                                    24. 36D
                                                      Fix-up online?
                                                    25. 39D
                                                      Poi container wrapped in a grass skirt (or an actual college football game)
                                                    26. 41D
                                                      Something brought into the office by the Thai stenographer
                                                    27. 44D
                                                      What you might choose if you can't handle the truth
                                                    28. 46D
                                                      He stops all the traffic
                                                    29. 50D
                                                      Long list of complaints ("___ complaints on fire lately?")
                                                    30. 52D
                                                      Developer of a method to ping someone during a game
                                                    31. 54D
                                                      Inert
                                                    32. 55D
                                                      When traveling from Mexico to Cuba, this is the way to go
                                                    33. 57D
                                                      Mailroom abbrev. I use when I'm listening to my compact disc again
                                                    34. 58D
                                                      Gymnasium where a German physicist goes to practice resistance training ("I wasn't expecting that!")
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                                                      Roast
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                                                      Night
                                                    37. 61D
                                                      A very bright note of the octave
                                                    38. 63D
                                                      Stephen who always brings a little bit of hope to a movie
                                                    39. 64D
                                                      Part of a mean practice done before people leave town
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