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Benchen71 Cryptic #1 (Meta)

◆◆ · By benchen71 · Published 2023-10-04T05:00:24.154Z

Meta Prompt
The answer to the meta is a girl's name
Madhatter5 constructed a number of cryptic crosswords back in the day which I very much enjoyed solving. However, he rarely (if ever?) included them in his MEOW series, probably because cryptics are not to everyone's taste - and they aren't usually metas, either. Well, allow me to rectify that! The answer to the meta is a girl's name. Answer & explanation: https://www.xword-muggles.com/viewtopic.php?p=144324#p144323
Check out "The MOAT MEOW Mashup Pack" here: https://www.ephesusscroll.com/about/interest4.html. US$10 gives you access to 14 metas that don't always abide by the "rules" of the game. You won't quite know what to expect: asymmetry, 2-letter words, uncrossed letters, sometimes all of those, and sometimes none! One thing is for sure, these are some of the more creative metas my brain has been able to come up with. And there's more: this time there's a mega-meta!
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  • kieranjboyd 🤓6:26 · 2023-10-04T05:20:34.918Z
    Ha! A fitting extract
    • benchen71 constructor · 2023-10-04T06:41:00.708Z
      Happy Columbus Day (next week, I believe)!
    • SamKat9 24:01 · 2023-10-04T07:00:40.698Z
      Thank you for the puzzle! It was a fun grid (though I had a couple letters wrong and I couldn't figure them out lol)
      • benchen71 constructor · 2023-10-04T08:39:33.539Z
        I will include an explanation for all clues when I post the answer next week!
        • SamKat9 24:01 · 2023-10-04T15:15:00.592Z
          Thank you! :)
      • I K Snamhcok 🤓25:21 · 2023-10-04T15:00:58.162Z
        I’m a cryptics doer, Ben, so this was in my wheelhouse. Thanks!
        • Hector 20:28 · 2023-10-04T15:55:25.519Z
          A Sunday morning constant for many years was hunting down the hidden NINAs in Al Hirshfeld's drawings in the NYTimes
          • Cindy Heisler 2s · 2023-10-04T17:13:30.103Z
            I almost didn't attempt this because it was cryptic. I am not usually very good at those. But, to my surprise, I filled in the grid fairly quickly. This was a fun one. Hopefully, I am climbing my way out of the meta slump that I have been in. Thanks, Ben!
            • boharr 3s · 2023-10-04T17:36:32.290Z
              Not a cryptic guy, so needed help.
              • Darth 🤓13:10 · 2023-10-04T17:47:17.551Z
                Nice! I love cryptics, so I hope there will be more coming. The trick will be finding a unique metanism. ;) Thanks, Ben!
                • Meg 2s · 2023-10-04T17:38:08.786Z
                  So well-hidden! I’m impressed!
                  • Laura M 🤓33:52 · 2023-10-04T19:14:30.152Z
                    I actually did the cryptic (in 34 minutes) without help, and understood it, a first for me! The meta took even longer but eventually I saw it, very nice "hidden in plain sight" mechanism.
                    • DrTom 27:10 · 2023-10-04T21:19:25.929Z
                      YEESH! I know it always surprises folks but I am NOT good at these at all. I had to reveal at least a third. The solve was easy because that is an old Hatter trick.
                      • Ergcat 28:30 · 2023-10-04T21:38:28.944Z
                        Finally! Read between the lines…. Fun to do a cryptic puzzle ( can’t believe I said that) and clever meta tie-in! Thanks, Ben!
                        • Ergcat 28:30 · 2023-10-05T18:33:48.692Z
                          I also realized later that the meta prompt is (sort of) a cryptic hint to the answer. Word for "girl" in Spanish is NINA. And you had a couple of Spanish word clues in the grid. My guess is you already know that and it was intended hint. Clever!
                          • benchen71 constructor · 2023-10-05T23:12:51.720Z
                            There is also something very special about the name NINA and crosswords! A "nina" is the name for a message hidden in a crossword!
                            • Ergcat 28:30 · 2023-10-06T23:43:55.389Z
                              Ahhhh, didn’t know that! Very. Very clever!
                        • Carolyn 3s · 2023-10-04T23:15:50.950Z
                          Jumped too soon. Reread and got it. Thanks!
                          • Mwoychick 35:59 · 2023-10-05T01:41:30.804Z
                            My incorrect submittals led me to the correct one - thanks, Ben
                            • Tyrpmom 4:07 · 2023-10-05T03:06:55.574Z
                              Really nifty.
                              • hoover 4s · 2023-10-05T17:49:43.983Z
                                I started to tell woozy that I was in the same boat they're in, but I corrected myself before posting in the forum. :D
                                • benchen71 constructor · 2023-10-06T21:46:02.467Z
                                  That would have been a fun spoiler!
                                • whimsy 36:29 · 2023-10-05T18:16:03.183Z
                                  Nice to be challenged slightly differently -- Thanks, Ben! Quite a trick to get that whole message into the grid so adroitly.
                                  • KayW 19:31 · 2023-10-06T19:59:45.943Z
                                    Very well constructed!
                                    • ReB 3s · 2023-10-07T02:20:24.425Z
                                      Enjoyed the cryptic cluing, Got all but the uncrossed squares for 3D and 26D, which unfortunately kept me from seeing the cryptic message without nudging. Ingenious idea.
                                      • kurtalert 15:59 · 2023-10-10T18:58:19.503Z
                                        Very good! Thankful for those nudges!
                                        • merlinnimue 🤓12:56 · 2023-10-10T21:25:55.280Z
                                          i am certainly not the expert here, but i think cryptic hardliners would cry foul at 1d (no way to disambiguate) and definitely 26d (indirect anagrams are a huge no-no in the community i was in... to them i say "get gud"... to which they say to me "bruh, we're already leagues above you, get out and stop ruining our vibe"... to which i say, "... yeah, ok"). but it was still a good puzzle (no surprise there), with some fun and novel ideas for clues (maybe some which could use a little refinement, but thats personal taste), and of course a genius well-crafted meta
                                          • benchen71 constructor · 2023-10-10T21:59:40.462Z
                                            I don't normally get my puzzles checked by anyone - just create and publish, that's my motto! - but I should probably have had my cryptic clues edited by someone familiar with the genre. If there's a next time, I'll keep you in mind! ;-)
                                          1A
                                          Gem surface that's within
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                                          Across
                                          1. 1A
                                            Gem surface that's within
                                          2. 3A
                                            That baby bear I see is rather box-like
                                          3. 5A
                                            Explosive starts to nasty times
                                          4. 7A
                                            Cleverly inventive, but debts follow broken engine missing an end
                                          5. 10A
                                            She made lemons in batches of 19, 21, 25 and 30
                                          6. 11A
                                            The Spanish sun is going backwards!
                                          7. 12A
                                            Luxurious fur is able to contain it
                                          8. 13A
                                            Tune that results when the show drops falsehood
                                          9. 14A
                                            Destroy the mad age
                                          10. 17A
                                            Family elders sound a lot like nooks' accompaniments
                                          11. 20A
                                            Eric Braeden will fly around his disreputable past
                                          12. 22A
                                            Tomorrow, in Tijuana, take the top off a banana and replace it with what F equals in physics
                                          13. 25A
                                            Peak political group Down Under
                                          14. 27A
                                            Give in to gravity: oh! in the middle of an unexpected album release
                                          15. 29A
                                            Miss Abraham's birthplace, so it's said
                                          16. 30A
                                            Fourth letter of Greece ends a river
                                          17. 31A
                                            It's a long way to randomised peripatry
                                          18. 32A
                                            Records of disemvoweled moral failing
                                          19. 33A
                                            Your excuse is part of a libidinous pattern of behaviour
                                          20. 34A
                                            Cry "uncle!" and reap the benefits
                                          Down
                                          1. 1D
                                            Swooned while fencing!
                                          2. 2D
                                            Model tree-people are found in campsites
                                          3. 3D
                                            This puzzle rendered speechless makes me angry
                                          4. 4D
                                            Wading bird got the drug cop back with ecstasy
                                          5. 5D
                                            Trig. character is the tips of the angle
                                          6. 6D
                                            Aesthete's love symbol found in back street
                                          7. 8D
                                            Has this Jewish legend heard of Smeagol?
                                          8. 9D
                                            This weapon confuses bears
                                          9. 15D
                                            Band aid cuts off wheelchair access
                                          10. 16D
                                            Stir tea, consume
                                          11. 17D
                                            Actress Teri is missing a hostile dog, I hear
                                          12. 18D
                                            Your goal is to decapitate, maim
                                          13. 19D
                                            Bobbsey twin takes a chunk out of Indian bread
                                          14. 20D
                                            South Carolina and Alabama are embroiled in a public outrage
                                          15. 21D
                                            Choose, after commercial, a new pet from the shelter
                                          16. 23D
                                            Sounds like they oughta do something about that artery
                                          17. 24D
                                            Dressed up as the aural equivalent of a nighttime visit to the fridge
                                          18. 26D
                                            Old Navy products can be made from a broken one-master
                                          19. 27D
                                            Medic and her org. tell a story
                                          20. 28D
                                            Longstocking or short Schwartz musical
                                          21. 29D
                                            N.M.E. is no mate of mine!
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