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◆◆ · By DrTom · Published 2024-09-04T11:30:33.721Z

Meta Prompt
The meta answer is an apt 10 letter phrase
A puzzle that, like several before, have come to me on a "road trip". It was considerably harder to construct that I thought it might be and therefore may have some crunchy fill. It might also require a little Mr. G depending on your familiarity with the subject, but everything should fall into place.
I had some expert help from three testers; Al Sisti, whimsy and rjy without these individuals who suffer through the early editions of sometimes REALLY flawed puzzles this whole thing would not be possible.
If forced to rate it I would say:
Kitten
Calico
*PERSIAN
Puma
Lion
Nudges will be Saturday or of course earlier by PM if needed.
Apparently "earlier" is the operative word, this is playing much harder than I thought it would (of course):
NUDGES:
Nudge 1] Quick, sing the first line of almost any of the themers
Nudge 2] Given the Title of the meta what part of that do you think is important
Nudge 3] Now you have some bits of information that point you to something
Nudge 4] How do you usually resolve that conundrum
Nudge 5] I know, I know the earworms abound, but you are unlikely to forget what day it was in the park or the day you heard about Billie Joe McAlister and his leap. I mean it was, after all, a sleepy, dusty delta day...
Well unless there is a massive rush to complete tomorrow, it looks like 40 will be the count for this one. I'll toss out one more nudge, well actually more of a "Here's how you solve" for those on the verge:
BLATANT PUSH "September"has the line "Do you remember the 21st night of September" and "Ode to Billie Joe" has "It was the third of June another dusty, sleepy delata day". With the 3 other songs can you see how you might get 10 letters out of those?
The Reveal:
5 clues were for "Numbers" that were actually quite popular (and here everyone adds, "in their time") and as it turns out CONTAIN numbers.
16.A The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down - May tenth or 5-10
18.A Saturday in the Park - fourth of July or 7-4
38.A Sweet Baby James - 1st of December or 12-1
60.A September - 21st night of September or 9-21
64.A Ode to Billie Joe - 3rd of June or 6-3
In squares 5,10,7,4,12,1,9,21,6,3 you will find the letters DATED MUSIC the meta answer which describes both their characteristic and their age
For a graphic representation of the solve go to:
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Leaderboard (updated hourly)

  • rjy solved 2024-09-04T04:44:10.243Z
  • JM solved 2024-09-04T13:42:03.594Z
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  • boharr 4s · 2024-09-04T15:46:14.886Z
    Very clever, DrTom. And thanks for not making me actually sing!
    • woozy 20:32 · 2024-09-04T16:14:46.681Z
      My first thought was correct but I had to work (didn't want the months to count). Great idea and great fun and nicely executed.
      • MatthewL 🤓6:56 · 2024-09-04T20:14:37.427Z
        Took a second (or even third look), before I decided to Google the lyrics. Very clever indeed. Thanks for the puzzle, Dr. Tom!
        • Darth 16:27 · 2024-09-04T21:58:11.625Z
          Well, I knew I'd need to Google some lyrics... Very clever construction! :D
          • andeux 🤓6:48 · 2024-09-04T22:59:17.781Z
            Neat mechanism. I knew all those songs well enough to (eventually) realize that they all mentioned dates somewhat prominently, though I could only remember what that exact date was in 2 of the 5.
            • kurtalert 🤓10:21 · 2024-09-04T22:55:25.290Z
              Very nice! I should have Googled the lyrics for the rest of the songs right away... I had "Saturdayyyyyyyyy, iiiin the park... thinkin bout the 4th of Julyyyyyyyy" earworming me all afternoon, the numbers jump right out!
              • DrTom constructor · 2024-09-06T01:51:46.210Z
                That was my hope. Who can listen to the opening notes of Ode to Billie Joe and not think of June 3rd. I tried to include songs that spanned generations though obviously the meta was informed by my experience.
              • Berto 1s · 2024-09-05T02:22:13.072Z
                Woohoo! I was just about to PM DrTom when inspiration struck. I might PM anyway but no longer for a nudge lol
                • HeadinHome 4:42 · 2024-09-05T05:25:44.124Z
                  This was brilliant! GREAT idea, well executed, and fun to solve. I remembered the date from the Chicago and the JT tune… could do a few bars of the others but couldn’t remember exact dates.
                  • DrTom constructor · 2024-09-05T17:16:15.263Z
                    Undoubtedly generational. I will always have “ it was the 3rd of June another sleepy, dusty delta day…” and “Do you remember, the 21st night of September…” stuck in my head. It was actually those two tunes whilst traveling that gave me the idea (I listen to my music, what some might call “oldies”.
                  • KayW 🤓4:18 · 2024-09-06T02:25:34.244Z
                    Great metanism and puzzle - well done. Thanks!
                    • Carolyn 3s · 2024-09-06T17:33:35.664Z
                      Needed nudges! Thanks
                      • LB800 3s · 2024-09-06T19:27:00.380Z
                        LOVE these songs. I was just singing Ode to Billie Joe in a van in Ireland a couple of weeks ago! The lyrics are as heartbreaking now as they were all those years ago.
                        • lukadisgre 🤓8:18 · 2024-09-06T22:51:43.296Z
                          First of your puzzles I've played, amazing! As a zoomer, September was the only song I knew the line for, but once I read the lyrics for The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down I figured it out. Sadly I looked at the nudges, unfortunate because I was on the right track without them. Very fun!
                          • DrTom constructor · 2024-09-07T11:31:07.142Z
                            Thank you so much! Hopefully you will like others as well. I have a bunch on Crosshare. I figured that there may be an edge to solvers of my generation (Boomer) because we knew all these songs but you are also correct that a quick look reveals the "trick".
                          • Sharkicicles 2s · 2024-09-08T23:27:17.905Z
                            No nudges needed… I was familiar enough with the EWF and Chicago songs I figured it had to be date based. Amazing idea of a mechanism and really well executed.
                            • Tyrpmom 2s · 2024-09-13T20:31:56.302Z
                              Glad I went through my unfinished puzzles and gave it another look.
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                              Weapon or spice
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                              Across
                              1. 1A
                                Weapon or spice
                              2. 5A
                                Code word
                              3. 8A
                                Someone to watch over me
                              4. 13A
                                Go ___ some length
                              5. 14A
                                Letter before omega
                              6. 15A
                                Sydney who knew all the stars and their stars
                              7. 16A
                                Number by the Band, "The ___ They Drove Old Dixie Down"
                              8. 18A
                                Number by Chicago, "Saturday ____"
                              9. 20A
                                "I'm not sure what I want, bring me ___"
                              10. 21A
                                Dumps
                              11. 22A
                                "Gee!" in Scotland
                              12. 24A
                                Old coin of Cairo, that looks like a cast from Paris
                              13. 29A
                                Streaker running behind David Niven in 1974, for example
                              14. 32A
                                Ground cover
                              15. 34A
                                Result of electrical activity in the brain
                              16. 35A
                                Tour de France stage
                              17. 36A
                                Buffalo's relative
                              18. 38A
                                Number from a Taylor about his nephew, "Sweet Baby ___"
                              19. 41A
                                Benzene derivative
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                                Barbara Streisand title role
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                                Back talk
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                                Facepalm inducing individual
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                                Bashes in bubbles
                              24. 51A
                                Cell component
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                                Encryption protocol on the internet: Abbr.
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                                Greeting in the dark, ___ sera
                              27. 56A
                                Jewish noodle casserole
                              28. 60A
                                Number by Earth, Wind and Fire that asks you to remember a Fall month
                              29. 64A
                                Number for Bobby Gentry, " ___ Billie Joe"
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                                "___ de lune" (Debussy)
                              31. 66A
                                Timely reference in a famous palindrome
                              32. 67A
                                Cupid's aka
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                                Dots in the ocean
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                                Old way to address a farmer; Abbr.
                              35. 70A
                                Option to buy
                              Down
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                                First name in famous models
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                                Stop-motion art; Abbr.
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                                Actor who is a "National Treasure"
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                                Group sharing a common culture
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                                Measures of resolution
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                                Ain't correct?
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                                Town of the "Mikado"
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                                Loses it
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                                Person in a mask
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                                Battery size
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                                Education fundamentals, in short
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                                Nickname for strikeout master Dwight Gooden
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                                Stanley who eats in Italy
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                                Most likely to succeed
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                                Muslim pilgrimage
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                                Mex. title
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                                Princess toppers
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                                Oscars of sports
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                                Can't walk the line
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                                Front part for a tooth?
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                                Star of "The Crying Game"
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                                Gregor, who Kafka chose to change
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                                Stop in for a sec
                              24. 33D
                                "It's either ___ the other"
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                                Abbr. on an envelope
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                                Ring bearer, maybe
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                                Jet-setters' jets, once
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                                Sea averse individuals, land ___
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                                Kirk : "Star Trek" :: ___ : "Deep Space Nine"
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                                Emerald City's creator
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                                Alien abductor, abductees say
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                                Dodger
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                                Soft ball component
                              34. 55D
                                Run ___ light
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                                Man who defined what it was to be an "American Gigolo"
                              36. 58D
                                English institution known to collar people
                              37. 59D
                                Confused over a number of things
                              38. 60D
                                Biol., e.g.
                              39. 61D
                                1997 U.S. Open champ
                              40. 62D
                                Bud
                              41. 63D
                                Often presented to fathers
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