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What an Odd Puzzle

· By Mikey G · Published 2025-01-11T18:00:23.606Z

Meta Prompt
[Level 3.5] The answer to the meta is what you don't want to hear when solving a puzzle.
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  • Mikey G constructor · 2025-01-11T18:00:23.606Z
    Answer: THAT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE
    Explanation: Pretty SAD! Take, in order, any numbered square that starts at least one entry (possibly two) of an odd length (so, 3, 5, or 7 letters long). In standard top-down order, they'll spell out THAT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE, our meta answer. I've had this idea percolating for about a year or so but decided to save it for the date of 1/11. Stay odd, folks! You'll be "primed" for success! (Well, sometimes.)
    • boharr 3s · 2025-01-11T21:10:57.650Z
      Needed rescue! Thanks Mikey
      • Berto 1s · 2025-01-12T14:40:18.952Z
        As did I. Didn’t check the prize box b/c I felt like a prize fool…
      • woozy 🤓3:46 · 2025-01-12T01:34:11.455Z
        Okay....
        So get this. I figured I had no option but to consider which letters occurred an odd number of times so I started to count them. I got about 3/4 of the way to counting them all when I decided there probably weren't any letters that occur an even number of times. So that made my think "not even". And so as a guess I put in "that's not even close".
        Then I wondered if there was something more as there are many variations of the phrase and you wouldn't want something that openended.
        • Mikey G constructor · 2025-01-13T20:55:02.203Z
          That's a great way to think of it! Even with the directive "odd," there's a lot that could go down - odd positions in words, odd number of occurrences, odd positions in the alphabet (A, C, E, G), and so forth!
        • HeadinHome 🤓49s · 2025-01-12T02:28:56.942Z
          This was a WAG based on the letters I saw. I did at one point highlight the first letter of all the across entries that had an odd number of letters, but TATVESE just didn’t take me anywhere. Neither did all the letters in odd-numbered squares (TYTNOKEENVOEE). Early on I saw “that’s” by just omitting the Y in the first line, and the line near the bottom could “feels” by omitting 3 letters, but that was a dead end. Also saw “UNO” spanning across the aisle of line 2 (an odd number), and the word “one” in several clues. Tried omitting all the letters that are in “EVEN” (since “odd” is NOT even), and also tried highlighting only odd letters (A, C, E, G etc.). In the end I just scanned the grid for words I could make, and the phrase appeared. NOWWW I see what you were doing … very close to one of my early attempts. Good challenge!
          • Mikey G constructor · 2025-01-13T20:55:37.193Z
            I remember when I first made it being a tiny bit disheartened at THYATS looking just like THAT'S, but honestly, I sometimes scan the grid to see if something will pop out!
          • Dave C 4s · 2025-01-12T03:56:09.627Z
            At first I didn't have a clue, but then it came to me. My first reaction was that the original rating of 2.5 was correct, but of course, that's what you think when you solve it rather quickly.
            • Mikey G constructor · 2025-01-13T20:55:44.367Z
              I know, right??
            • ELSavage 🤓2:36 · 2025-01-12T11:02:55.155Z
              Absolutely loved the confirmation ("not even") right in the middle of the phrase, though I did briefly wonder if that was a red herring.
              • Joe 🤓3:14 · 2025-01-12T16:26:47.633Z
                Sometimes you see them and sometimes you don't. This was the first thing I tried, and sure enough! Thanks for making me feel like a genius (you're the genius).
                • Darth 9:00 · 2025-01-13T05:07:21.067Z
                  Hmm... Well, what were the odds? Thanks, Mikey!
                  • DrTom 🤓6:09 · 2025-01-12T23:18:30.774Z
                    I could have sworn I tried the ODD numbers the first time, but I must not have been keeping a good track of the letters and I KNOW I was trying to fit the A and D odd numbers in (1A and 1D give two T's) but when I went back today I quickly got THAT'S and CLOSE so I knew it was in there somewhere.
                    Fun as usual!
                    • MatthewL 🤓2:19 · 2025-01-13T17:29:48.150Z
                      Finally got it. Nudges didn't really help, but they did remind me to go back and look at the puzzle again. Thanks for the puzzle, Mikey!
                      • DIS 🤓2:08 · 2025-01-13T20:17:27.450Z
                        Tried a few different things, but finally resolved the dis-parity.
                        • Abide 4s · 2025-01-15T02:25:49.394Z
                          Looks like a pretty constricted construct. Impressive!
                          [just now caught the "not even" part]
                          • Mikey G constructor · 2025-01-18T18:23:16.192Z
                            Definitely took a few attempts! Think it ties by smallest meta - hope to get a 7-by-7 one day!
                          • Meta World Peace 4s · 2025-01-18T14:17:28.787Z
                            With these sorts of hidden messages, I love how the likelihood gradually morphs from "wild guess" to "solid gold" with each additional letter!
                            • Mikey G constructor · 2025-01-18T18:23:37.567Z
                              I think when I first started metas years ago, I always thought early on a long message would unfurl in the grid. Fun when it happens!!
                            1A
                            Your of yore
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                            Across
                            1. 1A
                              Your of yore
                            2. 4A
                              @@@
                            3. 7A
                              Crossword, for one
                            4. 9A
                              Its capital is Muscat
                            5. 10A
                              Byte size
                            6. 11A
                              Game with 80 numbered balls
                            7. 12A
                              "Fraggle Rock" cereal, e.g.
                            8. 14A
                              "Just let me eat my broccoli and ___ out!" (Never mind, you don't carrot all about that pun)
                            9. 15A
                              Common crossword adjective whose homophone is a common crossword lake
                            10. 17A
                              "JAG" spin-off
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                              Position's derivative, for short
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                              Rockwell is one of my favorite ones
                            13. 23A
                              Morays (when I sit outside in the summer, I catch morays...more rays...okay, moving on...)
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                              Jeanne d'Arc, e.g., briefly
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                              "The Name of the Rose" author Umberto
                            Down
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                              Whenever I have to clue this acronym, I have a blast!
                            2. 2D
                              Plot device?
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                              Mongolian tent
                            4. 4D
                              "You said it!"
                            5. 5D
                              "The Backyard Bird Chronicles" author Amy (my bird puns can't be beak!)
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                              ___-Cat (winter vehicle) (or my tabby in January)
                            7. 8D
                              Most credulous
                            8. 9D
                              "Just tell me the answer already!"
                            9. 13D
                              Poetic contraction that anagrams to a poetic preposition
                            10. 15D
                              "___ kleine Nachtmusik"
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                              Bigfoot's shoe size, probably
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                              Not for sale: Abbr. (you're welcome)
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                              "Do you know the reciprocal of tan?" "Hmmm, let me rest on my ___ first"
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                              Inc. relative
                            15. 21D
                              Bear, in Bolivia
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