Drink You Under The Table (Meta)

· By benchen71 · Published 2023-01-04T05:00:08.560Z

Meta Prompt
The answer to the meta is an alcoholic drink (but not a cocktail)
Occasionally I come up with an idea for a meta which should probably be left in that notebook of ideas. But, no, I had some time; I wanted to construct a meta; so I forced it into a grid, and here we are! There are some rough spots in this grid, let me get that off my chest right at the outset. But I've tried to compensate you with some fun cluing. Alternatively, just reveal the grid and get stuck into the meta, the answer to which is an alcoholic drink (but not a cocktail). Answer & explanation:
Check out "The MOAT MEOW Mashup Pack" here: US$10 gives you access to 14 metas that don't always abide by the "rules" of the game. You won't quite know what to expect: asymmetry, 2-letter words, uncrossed letters, sometimes all of those, and sometimes none! One thing is for sure, these are some of the more creative metas my brain has been able to come up with. And there's more: this time there's a mega-meta!
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  • Laura M 🤓14:16 · 2023-01-04T06:45:54.103Z
    I usually don't love forced grid fill, but I literally laughed out loud at 6D :-)
    • benchen71 constructor · 2023-01-04T08:20:23.710Z
      It made me smile, too, so I left it in! ;-)
      • whimsy 15:41 · 2023-01-04T18:50:41.382Z
        Me too!
        • HeadinHome 🤓3:04 · 2023-01-06T20:08:09.659Z
          me too .. totally forgive the rule breaking when clue are so funny.
        • Darth 🤓14:11 · 2023-01-04T14:06:53.923Z
          Elementary, my dear benchen71. At least you DID warn us about the grid! lol
          • dplass 6:57 · 2023-01-04T14:30:29.442Z
            At first I was like, what the heck? But now, I really like this meta, despite the horrid fill. (Maybe I like it because I got it?)
            • benchen71 constructor · 2023-01-04T21:05:57.096Z
              That always helps!
            • Meg 2s · 2023-01-04T15:02:15.592Z
              It occurred to me while solving that I am not bothered by 2-letter entries anymore. I kinda like the wacky clueing, too. Evolution is the slow grinding away of rigidity…….or a lowering of standards. Glass half full imo.
              • boharr 3s · 2023-01-04T15:21:22.222Z
                Look! No grid needed.
                • Ergcat 16:26 · 2023-01-04T15:55:50.225Z
                  Love me a clever Periodic Table puzzle! Thank you, Ben!
                  • rjy 2s · 2023-01-04T16:27:01.307Z
                    Stumbled a bit on this since I thought Rutherfordium was RU, giving me IOS WINE which is a wine that does exist out there - but only if you have the internet to search for it. Regrouped and crorf’ed my way to the finish line
                    • rjy 2s · 2023-01-04T16:52:22.390Z
                      ... and just now realized that my RU/RF error had me miss the red herring that was so cleverly planted... very diabolical, that!
                    • Carolyn 3s · 2023-01-04T17:12:27.335Z
                      Very nice! Thanks
                      • whimsy 15:41 · 2023-01-04T18:53:33.346Z
                        This is my kind of grid! -- literally, the kind I tend to make because of my inadequacies. But I think they can be plenty fun! Thanks, Ben!
                        • Qmark 6s · 2023-01-04T20:37:55.373Z
                          As a former chemistry professor, I always enjoy a good periodic puzzle. After finding the "cocktail" answer, I'll admit it I had to let things sit for awhile before seeing the path to the real answer. Thanks Ben!
                          • Tom Wilson 🤓9:25 · 2023-01-04T20:34:36.654Z
                            Such a fun solve, even if it DID take me a while. On to Happy Hour, with the swagger of success.
                            • markhr 🤓6:20 · 2023-01-04T22:00:06.450Z
                              Faked me out for a bit, then I finally caught on. Nice one, Ben.
                              • lbray53 3s · 2023-01-05T00:03:41.002Z
                                Great puzzle even though I fell into the trap. You led us there but clearly told us not to submit that cocktail.
                                I tried hightlighting every single element symbol, and when that was too confusing to figure out every two-letter symbol. I even tried highlighting just the symbols in the themers. I finally considered the title more literally.
                                Very nice.
                                • Bbaack 27:51 · 2023-01-04T23:59:48.719Z
                                  I loved finding both answers. Make mine a double!
                                  • Cindy Heisler 2s · 2023-01-05T00:18:55.900Z
                                    I has no problem with the grid and I loved your clues. It did take me a bit to get the meta, though. Nice one, Ben!!
                                    • SJMcK 12:14 · 2023-01-05T02:27:00.380Z
                                      • benchen71 constructor · 2023-01-05T03:44:14.083Z
                                      • I K Snamhcok 1s · 2023-01-05T04:35:58.950Z
                                        N’ice! (Sorry, I was really staring for a pun there.) I was in RED ‘ERRING land for quite some time before getting the aha. Thanks, Ben!
                                        • DrTom 25:03 · 2023-01-05T14:24:04.809Z
                                          DOH - VERY clever misdirection. I looked all over the place for letters and finally it hit me - look where he told you. I had a problem because of the fact that I know about CHERRY HEERING a liquor, RED HERRING BEER and of course the RED HERRING COCKTAIL. I did not find the H for HERRING because I was trying to use the black square as a space. Why I did not tumble to the fact that you were literally telling us that the answer we got was wrong I'll never know, obviously too task oriented. Thanks for the workout.
                                          • ReB 5s · 2023-01-05T22:00:02.166Z
                                            I identified early on two possible mechanisms based on the title phrase "Under The [Periodic] Table". The in-grid mechanism led to the RED HERRING. The second mechanism worked after I got a technical update from the author to fill in the hole in my solution.
                                            I enjoyed the cluing, especially 22A, which reminded me of the classic prize question: "Who is buried in Grant's Tomb?"
                                            • ChrisCross 🤓8:00 · 2023-01-06T02:19:05.292Z
                                              Including in a separate comment because it's a slightly long anecdote. Your RED HERRING gave me a flashback to when I was working on a digital treasure hunt puzzle. Toward the end was a crude bitmap image with some riddles. I noticed under one of the pieces of clipart that the pixels were weirdly asymmetric. After flipping the image and interpreting it as Morse code, I got "rubeum allec" - latin for red herring. :/ I was much more annoyed with that one.
                                              • ChrisCross 🤓8:00 · 2023-01-06T02:15:20.656Z
                                                So glad you decided not to just leave this as an idea. The theme entries were clever. I was so proud of myself for thinking of the mechanism only to get RED HERRING. But, I was convinced and loved that mechanism so much that I couldn't let go. After a while it finally dawned on me to actually use the periodic table. Normally, I wouldn't like metas that don't rely much at all on the grid. But in this case the RED HERRING was actually more of a clue I was in the right direction, so I found this to be a really rewarding meta. I feel like you have a knack for creating metas that gently lead one's cognition in the right direction.
                                                • benchen71 constructor · 2023-01-06T04:37:41.630Z
                                                  Thanks so much! I really enjoy creating (and solving!) metas. And there are lots more to come!
                                                • HeadinHome 🤓3:04 · 2023-01-06T20:07:25.621Z
                                                  Ice wine? is that a thing? I was of course stuck on the red herring RED HERRING for days . The idea of looking up the actual table came to me in my sleep I think. That was pretty clever, Ben!
                                                  • benchen71 constructor · 2023-01-06T22:48:25.054Z
                                                    Ice wine is delicious! You have to pick and crush the grapes when they are somewhat frozen. It makes the juice sweeter because there's less water than usual.
                                                    • woozy 14:17 · 2023-01-07T01:05:56.065Z
                                                      It's a big thing in Newfoundland and Ontario. It's not bad but it's funny the guy from Ontario singing its praises was trying very hard to convince himself that ice wine was as big a thing world-wide as the other wine (you know, not-ice...) and pretending the concept that those of us from lower latitudes not having ever heard of it simply was inconceivable. He didn't go as far as insisting one must refer to non-ice wine as hot wine because the world interprets "wine" as equally likely to refer to ice wine but he almost went that far.
                                                      Going wine tasting in Newfoundland was ... interesting... (Still have some of that cloudberry and choke apple dessert wine in the basement somewhere ...)
                                                  • Mwoychick 🤓19:24 · 2023-01-06T22:23:11.120Z
                                                    Thanks, Ben - I finally got it with a pointer to a particular periodic table
                                                    • benchen71 constructor · 2023-01-06T22:49:19.204Z
                                                      Yes, that is a serious problem with this puzzle. Check out the answer reveal for my discussion on this.
                                                    • Teamdoubletow 6s · 2023-01-07T00:36:10.857Z
                                                      4th times a charm... We were doing everything right except someone was really careless looking at the periodic table and came up with iOS wine ... Apple wine that's a thing... Right? Thanks for the fun puzzle.
                                                      • KayW 7:57 · 2023-01-07T00:56:35.007Z
                                                        LOL. I needed the nudges to find the REAL answer. But loved the RED HERRING. I had no idea that was actually a cocktail! Thanks Ben
                                                        • woozy 14:17 · 2023-01-07T00:54:45.388Z
                                                          No fair. I never heard of the thing I was supposed to fall for! :)
                                                          I usually use this periodic table:
                                                          So ILA WINE, anyone?
                                                          • Dave C 2s · 2023-01-07T15:41:58.911Z
                                                            I needed the last nudge. I saw the five elements and looked at the elements numerically below (and above), but failed to look at the actual table - doh.
                                                            • kymike 3s · 2023-01-08T21:03:31.802Z
                                                              So, a meta that can be solved without filling in one item on the grid. Not a fan. I don't think that this really meets the definition of a meta puzzle as the answer does not come from within. However, brilliant puzzle!
                                                              • benchen71 constructor · 2023-01-08T22:38:46.503Z
                                                                I would argue that with meta puzzles there are no hard and fast rules! Glad you still enjoyed it, though. :D
                                                              Statistical tool used to check a null hypothesis (I've used this clue before so hopefully you remember the answer)
                                                              1. 1A
                                                                Statistical tool used to check a null hypothesis (I've used this clue before so hopefully you remember the answer)
                                                              2. 6A
                                                                CBS forensic drama
                                                              3. 9A
                                                                Double-reed instrument
                                                              4. 13A
                                                                "Charlie's Angels" actress, ___ Fawcett
                                                              5. 14A
                                                                Colour of Bromine when in liquid form
                                                              6. 16A
                                                                Political refugee
                                                              7. 17A
                                                                One way to buy things (but don't forget to make those repayments!)
                                                              8. 18A
                                                                Small amount
                                                              9. 19A
                                                                Irresolvable internal contradiction, such as when a Cretan says that all Cretans are liars
                                                              10. 21A
                                                                Ob-___ (MD for women)
                                                              11. 22A
                                                                New Zealand physicist after which Rutherfordium is named, Ernest ___ (I didn't want you to have to resort to Google for all the themers)
                                                              12. 25A
                                                                Dept. of Justice heads
                                                              13. 27A
                                                                "So unfortunate!"
                                                              14. 28A
                                                                Southern United States paramilitary terrorist groups active in the late 19th century (from which I've removed all of the vowels just because)
                                                              15. 30A
                                                                Prefix meaning "new"
                                                              16. 31A
                                                                46 across, to fans
                                                              17. 33A
                                                                Found by chance
                                                              18. 34A
                                                                Source of citric acid, which reacts with Molybdenum (among other elements)
                                                              19. 37A
                                                                Early Britons
                                                              20. 42A
                                                                Historical period
                                                              21. 43A
                                                                Lawyers' org.
                                                              22. 46A
                                                                "Umbrella" singer
                                                              23. 49A
                                                                Answered an invitation
                                                              24. 51A
                                                                Part of "Old MacDonald Had A Farm"
                                                              25. 52A
                                                                Covered with oil (but not Bromine since that's very reactive)
                                                              26. 54A
                                                                Scout's brother in "To Kill a Mockingbird"
                                                              27. 56A
                                                                Comes up
                                                              28. 57A
                                                                Garment border
                                                              29. 59A
                                                                Nothing to suggest, as foul play
                                                              30. 61A
                                                                Class of pain-killing drugs (abbr.)
                                                              31. 63A
                                                                Helium, for example (just think extremely general!)
                                                              32. 64A
                                                                Fashionable Klein
                                                              33. 65A
                                                                When to start racing
                                                              34. 66A
                                                                Town in the Netherlands located halfway between Arnhem and Utrecht
                                                              35. 67A
                                                                Comic, ___ DeGeneres
                                                              1. 1D
                                                                South American marmoset
                                                              2. 2D
                                                                Hunger Games participant
                                                              3. 3D
                                                                Unit of work
                                                              4. 4D
                                                                Actresses Bernhardt and Chalke
                                                              5. 5D
                                                                Jack Sparrow's ship, for short
                                                              6. 6D
                                                                Just put "CRORF" in the grid and we will never speak of this again
                                                              7. 7D
                                                                Discount recipient, often
                                                              8. 8D
                                                                Photo-bearing document, often
                                                              9. 9D
                                                                US state, whose capital is Salem
                                                              10. 10D
                                                                Tattoos, for instance
                                                              11. 11D
                                                                Because of
                                                              12. 12D
                                                                Tolkien tree creature
                                                              13. 13D
                                                                Served dinner to
                                                              14. 15D
                                                                Title for a friar (abbr.)
                                                              15. 20D
                                                                Do-___ situation
                                                              16. 23D
                                                                General ___'s chicken
                                                              17. 24D
                                                                High-speed connection, for short
                                                              18. 26D
                                                                Tax form info
                                                              19. 29D
                                                                "Hello" (even more briefly)
                                                              20. 32D
                                                                Gramophone record label (abbr.) but instead of "voice" it's "echo" (just go with it)
                                                              21. 35D
                                                                Perfumery ingredient with the common name of Queen Elizabeth Root
                                                              22. 36D
                                                              23. 37D
                                                                Opposite of post-
                                                              24. 38D
                                                                Book before Jude
                                                              25. 39D
                                                                7th letter of the alphabet made entirely of Gruyere?
                                                              26. 40D
                                                                "Thanks!" (even more briefly)
                                                              27. 41D
                                                                NBC sketch show
                                                              28. 43D
                                                              29. 44D
                                                                Queen's domain?
                                                              30. 45D
                                                                Included as a bonus
                                                              31. 47D
                                                                Subtle distinction
                                                              32. 48D
                                                              33. 50D
                                                                Medieval tenant
                                                              34. 53D
                                                                Rummage (through)
                                                              35. 55D
                                                                Antenna technology (multiple input, multiple output; you do the math!)
                                                              36. 58D
                                                                Internet portal from Bill Gates' company
                                                              37. 59D
                                                                Sgt. or cpl.
                                                              38. 60D
                                                                Boy toy, ___ Joe
                                                              39. 62D