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· By DrTom · Published 2024-05-22T11:30:24.952Z

Meta Prompt
What most people feel the title means
Well you've had beers, celebrated Moms, and dropped acid so now it is time to sit back and say nothing. This was directly inspired by a past meta, not sure if it was a Gaffney, Shenk or Birnholz but I "borrowed" at least a part of the mechanism. That is only tacky if I don't say I did that, so now the only thing tacky is the puzzle itself.
This should be no more than a Calico for the vast majority of solvers therefore:
Kitten
CALICO
Persian
Puma
Lion
My testers were ajk, KayW and lbray53 who besides making sure this was not a flight of Tom fancy also gave me some valuable feedback on clues and possible pitfalls. They thankfully did not take the advice of the puzzle and all said something. Now I hope all of you will say something like "Cat's Out!"
Nudges Friday if necessary
FRIDAY NUDGES:
Nudge 1] Well for once the "Title" isn't everything. BUT the nudge clue 67A sure is!
Nudge 2] Did you notice that the long answers (presumably the themers) are all exactly 10 characters long?
Nudge 3] There are 4 of these "themers"
Nudge 4] The meta answer is 8 letters
B I G   N U D G E] The answer is 8 letters long, there are 4 2 x 5 letter word answers, do what 67A tells you to
The Reveal:
There were 5 theme answers (the long ones) and each was composed of two, rather forced, 5 letter words.
Clue 67A said "Defendants who want to say nothing will often take the ___"
That obviously ties in with the Meta title, and gives a hint towards the solving mechanism.
Looking at the 5 theme answers and taking the fifth letter of each word:
CORG(I)CLAI(M)
BEIN(G)ELIH(U)
HAIT(I)CRAW(L)
ABBO(T)ALLE(Y)
I'M GUILTY - the meta answer
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Leaderboard (updated hourly)

  • Danny K Bernstein solved 2024-05-22T10:15:45.855Z
  • Schmeel solved 2024-05-22T10:55:34.445Z
  • Cindy Weatherman solved 2024-05-22T10:57:17.197Z
  • LarsCaine solved 2024-05-22T12:36:21.609Z
  • JM solved 2024-05-22T12:38:07.496Z
  • Cindy Heisler solved 2024-05-22T12:56:32.468Z
  • boharr solved 2024-05-22T12:58:09.299Z
  • Darth solved 2024-05-22T13:19:18.327Z
  • DCBilly solved 2024-05-22T13:42:10.194Z
  • whimsy solved 2024-05-22T13:43:50.009Z
  • kymike solved 2024-05-22T13:54:03.087Z
  • Pair O Ducks solved 2024-05-22T13:57:39.653Z
  • MatthewL solved 2024-05-22T13:58:41.864Z
  • lbray53 solved 2024-05-22T14:19:00.726Z
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  • Laura M solved 2024-05-22T18:46:33.647Z
  • LB800 solved 2024-05-22T19:39:41.522Z
  • KayW solved 2024-05-22T19:51:11.356Z
  • Tim solved 2024-05-22T21:27:21.688Z
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  • Cindy Heisler 2s · 2024-05-22T12:57:13.989Z
    Fun one. Thanks, Dr Tom!
    • DrTom constructor · 2024-05-22T13:26:41.101Z
      Thanks Cindy!
    • Hector 🤓12:26 · 2024-05-22T12:50:01.971Z
      I'll have a fifth, please, your honor.
      • DrTom constructor · 2024-05-22T13:26:11.960Z
        I'm not certain pleading FOR a fifth and pleading THE fifth are the same, but I'll bet one has lead to the other! I'll ask my friend Mr. Daniels.
        Thanks Hector
      • boharr 3s · 2024-05-22T12:58:29.530Z
        Thanks, DrTom. Very nice.
        • DrTom constructor · 2024-05-22T13:28:02.192Z
          One time I am delighted to accept a verdict! Thanks Bob!
        • Darth 🤓11:34 · 2024-05-22T13:26:20.213Z
          Say nothing, or leave a comment? Well, which is it? ;) Nice one, DrTom! ...and a good start to my diem. Thanks.
          • MatthewL 🤓8:28 · 2024-05-22T13:59:27.278Z
            Very nice and straightforward. T'were all metas thus. Thanks for the puzzle, Tom!
            • lbray53 3s · 2024-05-22T14:23:06.377Z
              Even fun the second time around!
              • whimsy 🤓13:16 · 2024-05-22T14:59:52.586Z
                🤐 Thanks, Tom!
                • kurtalert 🤓6:06 · 2024-05-22T14:55:02.756Z
                  Nice one, thank you Dr Tom! Was stumped for a minute just staring at the 5 answers on their own... good thing I went looking for the clue with the title in it, or I would have been here all morning. LOL.
                  • DrTom constructor · 2024-05-23T02:58:26.471Z
                    Yes the long clues were a real stretch if you did not see the reference to the fifth. This one was a bit of a challenge to fill. Thanks for solving.
                  • HeadinHome 🤓4:16 · 2024-05-22T16:08:39.919Z
                    It would be interesting to see how many would get this with a less nudgy clue at 67A! I definitely needed the nudge, but may(?) have sussed it out with “amendment protecting self-incrimination” or something similar as clue. Great grid/cluing with no google needed — always a great feat.
                    • DrTom constructor · 2024-05-23T02:56:57.503Z
                      I did not want to make this a higher level of difficulty, but realized that the clue about the fifth would be a big shove. You are correct, I could have hid it better, but hey, I love to see a bunch of solvers!
                    • Carolyn 3s · 2024-05-22T15:48:11.614Z
                      Very nice! Thanks for the puzzle.
                      • Laura M 🤓10:33 · 2024-05-22T18:47:05.061Z
                        Fun, thanks!
                        • KayW 🤓8:19 · 2024-05-22T19:57:50.356Z
                          Well I MUST say something - this was a fun and clever puzzle! Tho most embarrassingly, I do not remember test-solving this unless it was a beta version.
                          • DrTom constructor · 2024-05-23T02:55:03.776Z
                            Well it may not be your fault you cannot remember. I have so many of these puzzles floating around and I do not always send to the same folks so that (1) they don't get inundated (2) they do not get so used to me that the solve is automatic. In this case I believe I misstated and it was Barbara K, not KayW.
                            If you solved it again, thank you, and if it was the first time...well thank you!
                          • Steve M 42:54 · 2024-05-22T22:04:56.127Z
                            I’m guilty of initially taking the wrong fifths, but eventually got it right. Thanks for the fun puzzle!
                            • Dave C 3s · 2024-05-22T22:48:59.650Z
                              Nice one.
                              • Tyrpmom 1s · 2024-05-23T00:47:11.799Z
                                Fun. Thanks.
                                • Abide 🤓9:20 · 2024-05-23T01:45:48.150Z
                                  Very plea-sing
                                  • DrTom constructor · 2024-05-23T03:01:54.803Z
                                    I was happy I did not get a quit in the middle of it. I mean I wrote it in my briefs and I was afraid people would get mad and start asking me angry questions; kast ting I wanted was a cross examination!
                                    Thanks for solving Peter
                                  • Mwoychick 11:08 · 2024-05-23T12:31:11.081Z
                                    I'm glad I had the chance to do this puzzle, Dr. Tom - I was traveling all day yesterday, so a little late but very fun nonetheless
                                    • Qmark 3s · 2024-05-24T17:21:33.127Z
                                      Another fun meta...thanks DrTom!
                                      • DrTom constructor · 2024-05-24T20:51:40.878Z
                                        Thank you. I was hoping it would be a pleasant appetizer and not too hard to digest.
                                      • Bird Lives 3s · 2024-05-25T14:25:22.824Z
                                        Cute. I didn't see it the first time around. Only when I picked it up again did I think to pay attentiont to the final Across clue.
                                        • DrTom constructor · 2024-05-25T16:46:17.503Z
                                          Yeah, without that one the difficulty level would have gone WAY up!! Thanks for giving it a try Jay.
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                                        "That movie was ___ it was good"
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                                        1. 1A
                                          "That movie was ___ it was good"
                                        2. 6A
                                          Another name for a dugout
                                        3. 10A
                                          Exxon north of the border
                                        4. 14A
                                          "Yea me!"
                                        5. 15A
                                          ___ Mater
                                        6. 16A
                                          Bonus word, in ads
                                        7. 17A
                                          "The Queen herself thought us the world's best dogs"
                                        8. 19A
                                          Mini stroke on the green
                                        9. 20A
                                          The best end for def, and a good end for off
                                        10. 21A
                                          Fuzzy alien
                                        11. 22A
                                          MAS*H actor Alan and his brother Robert
                                        12. 23A
                                          Popular pain reliever
                                        13. 25A
                                          Decorative bit of floor tiling
                                        14. 27A
                                          Book by Charlie Kaufman about the founder of Yale, not John Malkovich
                                        15. 31A
                                          When I needed a senator from the Carolina's to play the guitar I said "___ Thurmond"
                                        16. 35A
                                          How the French keep a secret, entre ___
                                        17. 36A
                                          Simba's girl
                                        18. 38A
                                          Just another Roman day
                                        19. 39A
                                          Took the exam again
                                        20. 40A
                                          Gr. K-6
                                        21. 41A
                                          Digits on a jacket; Abbr.
                                        22. 42A
                                          ___ Capital (company co-founded by Mitt Romney)
                                        23. 43A
                                          Famous van Gogh, "The Bedroom at ___"
                                        24. 44A
                                          Hit all of the bars in Port-au-Prince, say
                                        25. 47A
                                          Cast with a malicious intent
                                        26. 48A
                                          Shows emotion
                                        27. 53A
                                          Sir John at the piano
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                                          Sushi tuna
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                                          Decision making fodder
                                        30. 58A
                                          San Francisco's iconic monument to volunteer firefighters; ___ Tower
                                        31. 59A
                                          Narrow street where all the heads of monasteries reside
                                        32. 62A
                                          Woodworker's tool that doesn't do what it's name suggests
                                        33. 63A
                                          Group that really did not like Yanks
                                        34. 64A
                                          Mrs. Gorbachev
                                        35. 65A
                                          Fishing equipment that might show up at a dance
                                        36. 66A
                                          Meals traditionally served at 4 PM London time
                                        37. 67A
                                          Defendants who want to say nothing will often take the ___
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                                          Command to a dog
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                                          Town where you can find "Black Bears" in Maine
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                                          What people say they don't want to do to my bubble, than inevitably do
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                                          Rags to riches guy
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                                          "Agnus ___"
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                                          A pitch that is too wide
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                                          Home of a "Golden Girl"; St. ___
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                                          Friend of Francois
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                                          Highland topper
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                                          Information source
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                                          Period that never lived up to its name
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                                          Mex. miss
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                                          What most people buy from Quakers
                                        14. 18D
                                          Source of sugar
                                        15. 22D
                                          "Is that ___?"
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                                          "Big Blue", initially
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                                          Night lizard
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                                          Cozy dwelling
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                                          There is one egg ___ section of a carton
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                                          Emphatic denial
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                                          Role that brought Fonda the gold
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                                          Star Wars, for short
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                                          Mrs. Addams, to Gomez
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                                          Throw back into the river
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                                          RItz-Carlton alternative
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                                          Mornings, for short
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                                          Sluggers' stats
                                        28. 43D
                                          A pint, maybe
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                                          Bolivian export
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                                          Letter of the law?
                                        31. 49D
                                          1950's candidate Stevenson
                                        32. 50D
                                          Golden State (Abbr.)
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                                          Method for checking a statistical hypothesis
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                                          Follow the doctor's orders
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                                          A Tesla, perhaps
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                                          Bank deposit
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                                          "Chiquitita" quartet
                                        38. 56D
                                          "Bonanza" brother
                                        39. 59D
                                          "A jealous mistress": Emerson
                                        40. 60D
                                          Worker for 30D
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                                          Kennel sound
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