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Stop, That's a Command!

· By DrTom · Published 20 days ago

Meta Prompt: What you'll have to do if you don't follow directions
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  • dplass 6:26 · 19 days ago
    Woo hoo! Took me a few.
    • boharr 4s · 19 days ago
      Nice one, DrTom. I am boharr here and in the muggles forums.
      • I K Snamhcok 2s · 19 days ago
        Had nothing, then just like that, in a flash, I got the “click”. I’m trying to think of some Cecil B. DeMille sort of joke to make here, but it ain’t happening. God #%$&@ it!
        • DrTom constructor · 17 days ago
          So you were lost and then the seas parted...hmmm?
        • Hector 3s · 18 days ago
          Well I saw the commandment connections right away, and the nudge told me I hadn't missed any themers. Is there some canonical numbering of the commandments that gives REPENT on the top row? I thought they were numbered in dozens of different ways... Or is there another mech I missed?
          • DrTom constructor · 18 days ago
            Well I never knew there was any other way than how they are commonly shown, but it turns out the Roman Catholic commandments may differ. The common way I have seen them is : https://lifehopeandtruth.com/bible/10-commandments/the-ten-commandments/10-commandments-list/ Sorry for any confusion, this is kind of like the color one a while back where it depended on which color wheel you used to get the code. Unfortunately you are not the first to be tripped up by this.
            • Hector 3s · 18 days ago
              Oh, thank you. Here is what I found in looking for a canonical numbering: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments#Numbering. Yours seems to be what they call "Reformed Protestant Christianity," descending from Calvin.
              I like the mechanism. It also occurred to me that there really didn't need to be such a mechanism -- the prompt is really enough once you know that the issue is what you need to do having sinned (and it's a six-letter word). That's how I got the answer, after all. But the "six" aspect made me pretty sure there was more to the mechanism.
              Thank you for this puzzle!
              • DrTom constructor · 17 days ago
                Yeah, that's my Episcopalian (or I guess it is Anglican) upbringing. In that chart you mention I am either Septuagint or Reformed.
          • Laura M 🤓11:04 · 17 days ago
            Excellent! I had the six themers early on but couldn't think of where to go from there, in fact wasn't sure that was the right path until the early nudge. Should have made the connection to commandments given the title and the biblical references, but I got there eventually :-)
            • Tyrpmom 2s · 17 days ago
              The themers stood out as funny Dr. Tom clues. Completely missed them on Wednesday. My Catholic education makes me feel guilty for not getting it sooner. Ha!
              • markhr 🤓10:03 · 16 days ago
                Well, now I feel dense. I didn't get the connection to commandments, even with the Moses reference. They just seemed like typically wacky Dr. Tom clues. Guess I wasn't alone, though.
                • Ergcat 18:03 · 16 days ago
                  Alleluia, I got it! The nudges helped! That was very clever ! Thank you!
                  • Ergcat 18:03 · 16 days ago
                    DrTom, let me add that even after I knew it was the 10 Commandments, it took me a couple of iterations because of the different numbering of the 10 Commandments by different denominations. I grew up Catholic but now Lutheran … Lutherans have slightly different numbering! 😂
                    • DrTom constructor · 16 days ago
                      Yes I know there are some differences. My "helper nudge" gives a link to the commandments as I know them. Actually even if you had stayed Catholic there would have been a difference I am told. Apparently Protestants throw in "No Idols" at #2 moving all the others down and make coveting all inclusive so it is one commandment. I really apologize because this was a HUGE oversight on my part.
                    • Carolyn 4s · 16 days ago
                      Embarrassed that it took me so long. I guess I need to go back to church!
                      • Dow Jones 4s · 16 days ago
                        Good one, Dr. Tom. I was looking down the "computer commands" rabbit hole (scan, text, view, sort, etc) until your nudges put me back on the "straight and narrow". Thanks for the wonderful entertainment.
                        • Abide 2s · 16 days ago
                          Same here with computer commands. Although the theme clues seemed like most other DrTom clues, I should have noticed those (?) were Across only. Good gimmick!
                        • ReB 3s · 16 days ago
                          After the first nudge confirmed the themers, I quickly noticed the overlap of the six themers with the Ten Commandments, which the second nudge confirmed. So then I got serious and decided first to look up the numbers for each (digging out my old JPS version which I expected would be closest to what you were using as a reference) and to look at the corresponding number box on the grid - and that worked right away.
                          • DIS 🤓6:21 · 16 days ago
                            It's about time knowing that stuff paid off :-)
                            • kurtalert 🤓8:30 · 14 days ago
                              Clever! This heathen needed all of the nudges, sadly!
                              • Mr Tex 11:01 · 13 days ago
                                I don't see the commandment themers at all. It drives me CRAZY that no one on this website -- creators or solvers -- explains the mechanism in the solution. Every other meta does.
                                • DrTom constructor · 13 days ago
                                  The 6 "punny" clues, all with a blank space and a ? all imply commandments. So, IDOL
                                  14A IDOLThe golden calf convinced Moses that ___ hands are the Devil's workshop?
                                  , ROB
                                  30A ROBWe never trusted him as treasurer because his name was ___?
                                  . LIE
                                  21A LIEThe golfer who embellished the difficulty of where his ball was got caught in a ___?
                                  , SLAYED
                                  20A SLAYEDThey threw the comic in prison because he said he ___ at the club?
                                  , BACKTALK
                                  49A BACKTALKIf you discuss you parent's spine, is that considered ___ ___?
                                  , DAM
                                  37A DAMNoah was accused of swearing because when he saw the water coming he said "God, ___ it"?
                                  if you read their clues you will see a commandment tie in. Each of those commandments has a number of course and the square corresponding to that number carries a letter (in order of the answers) that spells out REPENT. I don't know if this will work, but the complete reveal is on the Xword-Muggles.com site under the Other Meta Puzzles, MEOW (https://www.xword-muggles.com/viewtopic.php?t=1839&start=40#p106506)
                                • Mr Tex 11:01 · 11 days ago
                                  Thanks, Dr Tom, for explaining. I can't figure out why this isn't part of every solution. It's a frustrating, silly omission.
                                  • DrTom constructor · 10 days ago
                                    Well, you can check any of the Xword Muggles submissions by going to xword-muggles.com and looking through the various posts. We are a group of Meta solving goofballs who started out doing the WSJ Contests and then the Matt Gaffney weekly crossword and formed a group because we did not like the restrictions of the WSJ comment section. We grew from there and now many of us do our own puzzles and post them on that site (there is the MEOW, MMM, Pun of a Kind, MOAT, Pandora and others). You ought to join our group if you like metas, either solving or creating. It is free and we are very friendly. Putting them on Crosshare is rather new and done so that we do not have to answer a lot of e-mail; about whether people got it right. We always post the solution and the path on our site.
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                                    Sea eagles
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                                    Cabeza, across the Pyrenees
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                                    Combat veteran's affliction, perhaps
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                                    Scan a page
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                                    The golden calf convinced Moses that ___ hands are the Devil's workshop?
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                                    Dinner holder
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                                    Hotly contested leases on government land
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                                    Colleague of Mo and Miney
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                                    Can't get a break
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                                    They threw the comic in prison because he said he ___ at the club?
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                                    The golfer who embellished the difficulty of where his ball was got caught in a ___?
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                                    Gizmos
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                                    Hobby with HO and N gauges
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                                    "Smart" ones
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                                    ___ berries
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                                    We never trusted him as treasurer because his name was ___?
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                                    Mosquito repellent ingredient
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                                    Text that is the foundational basis of our laws: ___ Carta
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                                    First name of a famous Lisa
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                                    Noah was accused of swearing because when he saw the water coming he said "God, ___ it"?
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                                    Voice in the machine
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                                    Giant fruit encountered by James
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                                    Dame who played the late Queen Elisabeth II so well she won an Oscar
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                                    Spicy bar snack, ___ wings
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                                    Ash can
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                                    Rub
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                                    If you discuss you parent's spine, is that considered ___ ___?
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                                    "Lorna ___"
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                                    Nuisance
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                                    Sharks and Jets
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                                    Snack in a shell
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                                    Cheryl from Charlie's Angels
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                                    Airport board stats.
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                                    Where to view an etoile
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                                    USPS items
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                                    Morsel
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                                    More "out there"
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                                    Perfect fit
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                                    Overhead trains in Chicago
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                                    Beg
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                                    Tuneful Tucker
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                                    Confined to a pen
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                                    Speaker who once lead a minority faction
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                                    Judge to be
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                                    Outer: Prefix
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                                    Longhorn rival
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                                    A yell from 3D
                                    Simba's lioness[----]
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                                    "___ bitten, twice shy"
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                                    Road to the Rhein
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                                    German brand of luxury appliances
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                                    Woody's boy
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                                    Debussy's "La ___"
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                                    A popular book told us there were 50 of them
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                                    One way to swear
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                                    Subtle difference
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                                    Hipster's persona (Joe, formally)
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                                    Symbol of authority
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                                    Depth charge target
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                                    Fern feature
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                                    Vampire's tools
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                                    ___ Brith
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                                    One step down from a Grande at Starbucks
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                                    Med School subj.
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                                    McCoy's rank on TV's Star Trek: Abbr.
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                                    Classic sneaker brand with a blue logo
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                                    Grp. that pilots pilots
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