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Stop, That's a Command!
◆ · By DrTom · Published 2022-09-13T16:50:27.724Z
Meta Prompt
What you'll have to do if you don't follow directions
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- boharr 4s · 2022-09-14T18:53:59.391ZNice one, DrTom. I am boharr here and in the muggles forums.
- I K Snamhcok 2s · 2022-09-14T21:46:52.064ZHad nothing, then just like that, in a flash, I got the “click”. I’m trying to think of some Cecil B. DeMille sort of joke to make here, but it ain’t happening. God #%$&@ it!
- Hector 3s · 2022-09-16T03:05:35.814ZWell I saw the commandment connections right away, and the nudge told me I hadn't missed any themers. Is there some canonical numbering of the commandments that gives REPENT on the top row? I thought they were numbered in dozens of different ways... Or is there another mech I missed?
- Well I never knew there was any other way than how they are commonly shown, but it turns out the Roman Catholic commandments may differ. The common way I have seen them is : https://lifehopeandtruth.com/bible/10-commandments/the-ten-commandments/10-commandments-list/ Sorry for any confusion, this is kind of like the color one a while back where it depended on which color wheel you used to get the code. Unfortunately you are not the first to be tripped up by this.
- Hector 3s · 2022-09-16T11:03:18.138ZOh, thank you. Here is what I found in looking for a canonical numbering: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments#Numbering. Yours seems to be what they call "Reformed Protestant Christianity," descending from Calvin.I like the mechanism. It also occurred to me that there really didn't need to be such a mechanism -- the prompt is really enough once you know that the issue is what you need to do having sinned (and it's a six-letter word). That's how I got the answer, after all. But the "six" aspect made me pretty sure there was more to the mechanism.Thank you for this puzzle!
- Laura M 🤓11:04 · 2022-09-16T22:36:41.102ZExcellent! I had the six themers early on but couldn't think of where to go from there, in fact wasn't sure that was the right path until the early nudge. Should have made the connection to commandments given the title and the biblical references, but I got there eventually :-)
- Tyrpmom 2s · 2022-09-17T05:42:02.063ZThe themers stood out as funny Dr. Tom clues. Completely missed them on Wednesday. My Catholic education makes me feel guilty for not getting it sooner. Ha!
- markhr 🤓10:03 · 2022-09-17T14:21:13.223ZWell, now I feel dense. I didn't get the connection to commandments, even with the Moses reference. They just seemed like typically wacky Dr. Tom clues. Guess I wasn't alone, though.
- Ergcat 18:03 · 2022-09-17T14:43:47.761ZAlleluia, I got it! The nudges helped! That was very clever ! Thank you!
- Ergcat 18:03 · 2022-09-17T14:49:11.609ZDrTom, let me add that even after I knew it was the 10 Commandments, it took me a couple of iterations because of the different numbering of the 10 Commandments by different denominations. I grew up Catholic but now Lutheran … Lutherans have slightly different numbering!
- Yes I know there are some differences. My "helper nudge" gives a link to the commandments as I know them. Actually even if you had stayed Catholic there would have been a difference I am told. Apparently Protestants throw in "No Idols" at #2 moving all the others down and make coveting all inclusive so it is one commandment. I really apologize because this was a HUGE oversight on my part.
- Carolyn 4s · 2022-09-17T16:16:27.599ZEmbarrassed that it took me so long. I guess I need to go back to church!
- Dow Jones 4s · 2022-09-17T16:55:46.306ZGood one, Dr. Tom. I was looking down the "computer commands" rabbit hole (scan, text, view, sort, etc) until your nudges put me back on the "straight and narrow". Thanks for the wonderful entertainment.
- Same here with computer commands. Although the theme clues seemed like most other DrTom clues, I should have noticed those (?) were Across only. Good gimmick!
- ReB 3s · 2022-09-17T19:20:01.737ZAfter the first nudge confirmed the themers, I quickly noticed the overlap of the six themers with the Ten Commandments, which the second nudge confirmed. So then I got serious and decided first to look up the numbers for each (digging out my old JPS version which I expected would be closest to what you were using as a reference) and to look at the corresponding number box on the grid - and that worked right away.
- DIS 🤓6:21 · 2022-09-18T00:05:14.783ZIt's about time knowing that stuff paid off :-)
- kurtalert 🤓8:30 · 2022-09-19T15:55:29.067ZClever! This heathen needed all of the nudges, sadly!
- Mr Tex 11:01 · 2022-09-20T19:08:02.375ZI don't see the commandment themers at all. It drives me CRAZY that no one on this website -- creators or solvers -- explains the mechanism in the solution. Every other meta does.
- The 6 "punny" clues, all with a blank space and a ? all imply commandments. So, IDOL, ROB. LIE, SLAYED, BACKTALK, DAM if you read their clues you will see a commandment tie in. Each of those commandments has a number of course and the square corresponding to that number carries a letter (in order of the answers) that spells out REPENT. I don't know if this will work, but the complete reveal is on the Xword-Muggles.com site under the Other Meta Puzzles, MEOW (https://www.xword-muggles.com/viewtopic.php?t=1839&start=40#p106506)
- Mr Tex 11:01 · 2022-09-23T06:45:52.332ZThanks, Dr Tom, for explaining. I can't figure out why this isn't part of every solution. It's a frustrating, silly omission.
- Well, you can check any of the Xword Muggles submissions by going to xword-muggles.com and looking through the various posts. We are a group of Meta solving goofballs who started out doing the WSJ Contests and then the Matt Gaffney weekly crossword and formed a group because we did not like the restrictions of the WSJ comment section. We grew from there and now many of us do our own puzzles and post them on that site (there is the MEOW, MMM, Pun of a Kind, MOAT, Pandora and others). You ought to join our group if you like metas, either solving or creating. It is free and we are very friendly. Putting them on Crosshare is rather new and done so that we do not have to answer a lot of e-mail; about whether people got it right. We always post the solution and the path on our site.
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Across
- 1ASea eagles
- 5ACabeza, across the Pyrenees
- 9ACombat veteran's affliction, perhaps
- 13AScan a page
- 14AThe golden calf convinced Moses that ___ hands are the Devil's workshop?
- 15ADinner holder
- 16AHotly contested leases on government land
- 18AColleague of Mo and Miney
- 19ACan't get a break
- 20AThey threw the comic in prison because he said he ___ at the club?
- 21AThe golfer who embellished the difficulty of where his ball was got caught in a ___?
- 22AGizmos
- 23AHobby with HO and N gauges
- 28A"Smart" ones
- 29A___ berries
- 30AWe never trusted him as treasurer because his name was ___?
- 33AMosquito repellent ingredient
- 34AText that is the foundational basis of our laws: ___ Carta
- 36AFirst name of a famous Lisa
- 37ANoah was accused of swearing because when he saw the water coming he said "God, ___ it"?
- 38AVoice in the machine
- 39AGiant fruit encountered by James
- 40ADame who played the late Queen Elisabeth II so well she won an Oscar
- 43ASpicy bar snack, ___ wings
- 47AAsh can
- 48ARub
- 49AIf you discuss you parent's spine, is that considered ___ ___?
- 54A"Lorna ___"
- 55ANuisance
- 56ASharks and Jets
- 57ASnack in a shell
- 58ACheryl from Charlie's Angels
- 59AAirport board stats.
- 60AWhere to view an etoile
- 61AUSPS items
Down
- 1DPicadilly Circus god
- 2DThis pulls a bit
- 3DSimba's lioness
- 4DMt. Rushmore state, for short
- 5DMorsel
- 6DMore "out there"
- 7DPerfect fit
- 8DOverhead trains in Chicago
- 9DBeg
- 10DTuneful Tucker
- 11DConfined to a pen
- 12DAccomplishments
- 15DSpeaker who once lead a minority faction
- 17DActress Carter and others
- 20DHennie on skates
- 22DSinger Celine
- 23DSafety org.
- 24DOlive genus
- 25DJudge to be
- 26DOuter: Prefix
- 27DLonghorn rival
- 30DA yell from 3D
- 31D"___ bitten, twice shy"
- 32DRoad to the Rhein
- 34DGerman brand of luxury appliances
- 35DWoody's boy
- 36DDebussy's "La ___"
- 38DA popular book told us there were 50 of them
- 39DOne way to swear
- 41DSubtle difference
- 42DHipster's persona (Joe, formally)
- 43DSymbol of authority
- 44DDepth charge target
- 45DFern feature
- 46DVampire's tools
- 49D___ Brith
- 50DOne step down from a Grande at Starbucks
- 51DMed School subj.
- 52DMcCoy's rank on TV's Star Trek: Abbr.
- 53DClassic sneaker brand with a blue logo
- 55DGrp. that pilots pilots
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