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Before & After 16: Brought to You by the Letter 'S' (meta)

· By damefox · Published 2024-07-21T16:00:22.117Z

Meta Prompt
Two entries in this grid are not quite right. One of them is missing a word that should go after the word that appears in the grid, and the other one is missing the same word, but this time it should go before the word that appears in the grid. What's the missing word?
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  • kurtalert 🤓57s · 2024-07-21T16:42:03.717Z
    Nice!
    Woodworker note: the two sides of a dovetail joint are called the pins and the tails. There is no tenon in a dovetail; a tenon is part of a mortise & tenon joint. The mortise is the hole (traditionally a square/rectangular hole, but it now often has rounded corners) and the tenon is the matchine piece that goes into that hole.
    • damefox constructor · 2024-07-22T01:21:21.495Z
      Interesting! Not being a woodworker myself, I can only go by what previous constructors have done for this, and some variation of [Dovetail component] is pretty common https://crosswordtracker.com/answer/tenon/. (Variations on [Mortise insert] are also common though.) Wikipedia tells me some dovetails are types of mortises https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortise_and_tenon#Types, so maybe that's why it's a common clue.
      • kurtalert 🤓57s · 2024-07-22T15:39:19.179Z
        Yeah, in a sense, there could be a way to call parts of some varieties of dovetail joints mortises, in that you're cutting out a portion of the wood in order to accept a complementary chunk from the joining part.
        But I think that basically all traditional woodworkers- who are notorious for arguing endlessly about completely inane things, like whether it's better to cut pins first or tails first, or whether bevel up are superior to bevel down planes- would be united in looking at you like you have 3 eyes if you tried to tell them that a dovetail joint has a tenon :-)
    • frostyjhammer 🤓41s · 2024-07-21T16:54:25.403Z
      I was gonna point out the difference between pin/tail and mortise/tenon but somebody beat me to it. Fun solve, thanks!
      • SamuRai 🤓2:12 · 2024-07-22T01:20:37.072Z
        Now I’m curious as to the intersection between woodworkers and crossharers. Count me as rather new in both groups.
        • frostyjhammer 🤓41s · 2024-07-22T23:40:28.912Z
          Cutting a dovetail joint — by hand with a back saw and a wood chisel — is a 3D puzzle construction. so a bit of overlap between those two populations would not be surprising.
          • SamuRai 🤓2:12 · 2024-07-23T01:55:05.226Z
            Certainly beyond my skill level at the moment. Time constraints have only allowed investing in much simpler joinery. I look forward to retirement in a few decades when I can tackle such projects.
      • Puzzled in CNY 🤓1:11 · 2024-07-21T18:29:08.105Z
        I have mixed feelings...on one hand, cool puzzle. On the other hand, "Two all beef patties, special sauce...." etc will be stuck in my head all day now haha.
        • Mwoychick 🤓1:12 · 2024-07-21T18:53:06.802Z
          Very cool - fun puzzle, thank you!
          • Kent D 🤓38s · 2024-07-21T19:17:04.691Z
            Fun as usual! I'm making honey chicken for dinner tonight and it's going to get quite a few extra sesame seeds. 😁
            1A
            "Show to the ___" and "NEVER Show to the ___" (labels for two accounting books in "The Producers")
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            Across
            1. 1A
              "Show to the ___" and "NEVER Show to the ___" (labels for two accounting books in "The Producers")
            2. 4A
              Dovetail component
            3. 7A
              In ___ (fit)
            4. 8A
              More than two, less than ten (at least, that's my general approximation for it)
            5. 9A
              Topper for a Big Mac
            Down
            1. 1D
              "Superman (___ Not Easy)" (Five for Fighting song)
            2. 2D
              Amy Winehouse song
            3. 3D
              Real big mess
            4. 5D
              Magical phrase that entered English from Arabic by way of French
            5. 6D
              Never before seen
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