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Cryptic 7x7 #6 by tuber

· Di tuber · Pubblicato 2023-08-29T00:14:56.680Z

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  • tuber costruttore · 2023-08-29T00:29:49.472Z
    Hi solvers! Thanks for giving my puzzle a crack (and hopefully also cracking the puzzle.) Your feedback's always very welcome, so let me know how you got on 😊 Here's the wash-up:
    ACROSS. 1A. Enough = AMPLE after first of "small" = S. 5A. Crack = SOLVE by Sailor = AB. 6A. Setter = ME contained in anag. REAL, + diamonds = D. 7A. Fish = RAY contained in fiddle = CON.
    DOWN. 1D. Homophone ("say") of soft leather = SUEDE. 2D. anag. ("suspect") of AHEMSIR. 3D. Student = L (Learner) + A (given literally) contained in anag. BULLY 4D. Field = LEA + study = DEN. ("Heavy" / "metal" is a double definition.)
    • Jon 8:05 · 2023-08-29T03:46:09.722Z
      Nice. Thx.
      • Jon 8:05 · 2023-08-29T03:54:06.966Z
        IMO 7D is misleading. All is good except I believe it's a stretch to go from "student" to intuit the L for learner. Maybe something more direct. The rest of the cluing is great. Thanks.
        • tuber costruttore · 2023-08-29T08:16:35.490Z
          Believe it or not, this one is occasionally a matter for debate among the great and good of cryptic crossword setters and solvers. I am neither great nor good, so I can only humbly submit in my defence that (i) it still crops up in newspaper cryptics, and (ii) Wikipedia lists it on its "crossword abbreviations" page, at https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossword_abbreviations.
          I'm not sure I've convinced even myself that I disagree with you, though. I'll let it stand here and try harder to avoid it in future. Thanks!
          • Jon 8:05 · 2023-09-01T23:59:43.542Z
            Thank YOU!
        • Iris 🤓5:11 · 2023-08-30T04:29:41.014Z
          Lovely! The use of "apprehend" was a cleverly misleading in 2D - a very nice clue!
          • merlinnimue 🤓5:43 · 2023-09-01T01:03:08.021Z
            very nice
            • dooiemus 🤓29s · 2023-09-06T15:02:06.609Z
              Overall pretty good. Couple of nits though. In 1A "had" is only there for the surface reading. Does "first small" really mean "the first letter OF small"? To me it doesn't, but I see it in the dailies all the time so I'm not complaining. In 6A does "real trouble" really mean an anagram of "real"? To me it doesn't. Same deal. "Troubled" would work for me, though. In 4D, "of" is only there for the surface. On the other hand, I agree with you that "L" clued as "student" is absolutely fine. No need to avoid anything in that regard in the future I would say. While I'm at it, I've seen cryptics here on crosshare that broke every rule in the book and still be labeled as "awesome" in the comments. Breaking cryptic rules is no big deal of course but please don't call your puzzle "cryptic" if you do! "Ridiculously loose wordplay" might be a better handle.
              • tuber costruttore · 2023-09-06T16:45:37.038Z
                Of course, the really silly thing is that "small" already stands for "S" without any initialism indicator at all...
                Thanks for this, your nits are worth picking at. My barometer, the setter to whose standards I most aspire, is Private Eye's Cyclops, aka Eddie James.
              1A
              Had enough after first small taste (6)
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              2
              3
              4
              5
              6
              7
              Orizzontali
              1. 1A
                Had enough after first small taste (6)
              2. 5A
                Forgive crack by sailor (7)
              3. 6A
                Gem setter's in real trouble with diamonds (7)
              4. 7A
                Fish found in fiddle? That's colourful! (6)
              Verticali
              1. 1D
                Moved drunkenly in soft leather, say (6)
              2. 2D
                Wrongly apprehend suspect: "Ahem, Sir!" (7)
              3. 3D
                Student bully badly covering a sweet song (7)
              4. 4D
                Field of study: heavy metal (6)
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