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The City & the City (Meta)

◆◆ · Di benchen71 · Pubblicato 2022-08-30T06:00:58.640Z

Meta Prompt
The answer to the meta is a fictional city
"The City & the City" (by 38 across) is a brilliant mind-melting weird-fiction detective/police-procedural novel. (It was also made into a BBC TV series, which while decent, paled in comparison.) Such a book deserves a similarly mind-melting meta! I think the major challenge here will be completing the grid; the meta should follow on pretty quickly after that. The answer you are looking for is a fictional city. Good luck! Answer & explanation here: https://www.xword-muggles.com/viewtopic.php?p=105007#p105007
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Commenti

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  • Laura M 30:56 · 2022-08-30T08:26:44.999Z
    Pretty cool but a lot of work! Even after liberal Googling I still had to use the check function to find out that I still had 4 or 5 wrong letters in the grid :-) Thanks for the puzzle, and I'm putting the book on my reading list!
    • benchen71 costruttore · 2022-08-30T09:49:47.915Z
      The book is amazing! I sort of knew the grid would be difficult.
    • rjy 4s · 2022-08-30T15:11:58.530Z
      Yes, very tough grid, particularly with missing letters that made the crossings very difficult. I had several letters wrong and had to peek to figure them out. Still... not a complaint! I think tough ones like this should be among the mix, and appreciate the creativity... thanks Ben!
      • benchen71 costruttore · 2022-08-30T22:55:18.851Z
        They're not everyone's cup of tea. But, as you say, there should be the occasional tough meta. Emphasis on "occasional"!
      • Cindy Heisler 2s · 2022-08-30T15:41:09.854Z
        Tough grid. The meta would have been easier if all my grid answers were correct. My bad!
        • Qmark 6s · 2022-08-30T15:49:41.780Z
          Very challenging grid, but the payoff was worth it...didn't know the book but will definitely check it out...thanks Ben!
          • benchen71 costruttore · 2022-08-30T22:55:47.367Z
            It's a great book. And when you read it, you will appreciate this meta puzzle even more!
          • whimsy 31:34 · 2022-08-30T17:57:32.835Z
            Didn't do too bad on the grid considering I don't seem to share a lot of Ben's interests. : ) Did do a considerable amount of checking to make sure I wasn't going off the track. A nice challenge -- Thanks, Ben!
            • Ergcat 19:42 · 2022-08-30T18:21:46.217Z
              Tricky grid ( like you said) but the path to the meta was pretty clear! Will have to check out the book! Thank you!
              • SJMcK 8s · 2022-08-30T20:57:12.507Z
                I like a challenging grid, but this was the wrong sort of tough for my taste.
                • benchen71 costruttore · 2022-08-30T22:58:25.073Z
                  I knew this meta puzzle would be extremely niche: it's basically a meta for people who have read "The City & the City"!
                  • SJMcK 8s · 2022-08-31T23:50:38.909Z
                    They can’t all be for everybody. Thank you for creating and providing free puzzles
                • woozy 26:03 · 2022-08-30T22:04:16.146Z
                  Okay... I'm going to have to read that book.
                  Fun puzzle.
                  • benchen71 costruttore · 2022-08-30T22:56:28.258Z
                    It's one that stuck in my mind for a long time afterwards.
                  • I K Snamhcok 2s · 2022-08-31T15:28:04.520Z
                    Thanks, Ben. Your puzzles, and my boys and their wives, help me keep up with modern culture.
                    • Carolyn 3s · 2022-08-31T15:31:46.138Z
                      I echo what many have said. Had several mistakes on the crosses which made this even harder. May have to read the book! Thanks for the challenge.
                      • Sharkicicles 20s · 2022-08-31T23:24:26.347Z
                        I thought there was a step 2 until I gave up and googled “orciny”. ;) fun puzzle!
                        • DrTom 5s · 2022-09-01T12:35:47.563Z
                          Wow - kind of an impossible grid (did Josh help you with that?) but the mechanism was simple once you caught on. Thanks Ben
                          • ReB 33:44 · 2022-09-02T03:04:02.917Z
                            Grid was very challenging and needed the check function. Then, once I took another look at the title and realized that there should be two cities intermixed in each theme answer, everything quickly fell into place. And when I googled the answer for confirmation, I found that indeed the answer as I anticipated was one of the two cities in the referenced book. I guess I'll learn the name of the other city if I read the book. (No, didn't google the book title.)
                            Worth the effort. Very well plotted out.
                            • ReB 33:44 · 2022-09-02T03:14:51.950Z
                              Nice touch in the middle, after googling the book author.
                              • kurtalert 14:42 · 2022-09-05T16:00:12.857Z
                                Struggled a lot to get the letters of the city in the right order- not sure if I missed part of the mechanism? Found the 6 letters pretty easily, though. Good puzzle!
                                • benchen71 costruttore · 2022-09-05T21:57:57.823Z
                                  The letters of each city are in order, but there is no pattern as to which city's letter comes next other than trying to make the end result vaguely pronounceable.
                                  • kurtalert 14:42 · 2022-09-07T14:51:43.995Z
                                    Sorry- by "the city" - I meant the meta answer... I easily found the real city names and knew which letter was missing from each combination, but once I had ICONRY I wasn't able to sort those letters properly. I only figured it out by looking up that book and seeing that there was a city in it with those same 6 letters!
                                    • benchen71 costruttore · 2022-09-07T20:49:36.354Z
                                      Oh, that's when the numbers in brackets in the clues comes into it.
                                      • kurtalert 14:42 · 2022-09-07T23:48:00.558Z
                                        Ugh. I completely overlooked those... whoops!
                                1A
                                With 65 across: City where you can see the Eiffel Colosseum? (1)
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                                Orizzontali
                                1. 1A
                                  With 65 across: City where you can see the Eiffel Colosseum? (1)
                                2. 5A
                                  Player of tracks with repetitive beats and synthesizers at a party (abbr.)
                                3. 10A
                                  "Law & Order: SVU" actor
                                4. 14A
                                  Orchestra tuner
                                5. 15A
                                  Large rock in the middle of Australia
                                6. 16A
                                  Town on the island of Sicily that is also an anagram of ROAN
                                7. 17A
                                  City with the largest plaza de toros in the world made famous by a Psy music video? (4)
                                8. 19A
                                  What you get when you reverse a lime
                                9. 20A
                                  "Do not ___. Do not collect $200"
                                10. 21A
                                  Small basin next to a dentist's chair
                                11. 23A
                                  Spanish appetizer
                                12. 25A
                                  "___ much as is sufficient for thee" (Prov. 25:16, KJV)
                                13. 26A
                                  "___ alaykum" (Arabic greeting that translates as "Peace be upon you")
                                14. 30A
                                  Knowledge of the eternal forms or ideas
                                15. 33A
                                  "Cyprus" in Slovakian
                                16. 34A
                                  "Can we have ___?" (request in a restaurant)
                                17. 36A
                                  Poem of praise
                                18. 37A
                                  "Three" in Lithuanian
                                19. 38A
                                  Author of "The City & the City", ___ Miéville
                                20. 39A
                                  Grasp firmly
                                21. 40A
                                  "Goose" in French
                                22. 41A
                                  First word of "the old Lie" according to Wilfred Owen
                                23. 42A
                                  "Good" in Italian
                                24. 43A
                                  Josh ___, of "How I Met Your Mother"
                                25. 45A
                                  Track 3 of Jacob Collier's amazing debut album, "In My Room"
                                26. 47A
                                  Identifies
                                27. 49A
                                  Precious
                                28. 50A
                                  Angry mood
                                29. 53A
                                  Orange-red food coloring derived from the seeds of the achiote tree (var.)
                                30. 57A
                                  Like a ___ to a flame
                                31. 58A
                                  City built on the confluence of the Thames and the Yamuna? (5)
                                32. 60A
                                  Hawaiian island
                                33. 61A
                                  Suffix with trave- or mono-
                                34. 62A
                                  Architectural feature of St. Peter's Basilica
                                35. 63A
                                  Third child of Eddard and Catelyn Stark who (spoiler alert) kills the Night King during the Battle of Winterfell
                                36. 64A
                                  Javelin
                                37. 65A
                                  See 1 across
                                Verticali
                                1. 1D
                                  Elgar's "___ and Circumstance"
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                                  Rhyming scheme for the quatrain that ends a villanelle
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                                  Monica's brother on "Friends"
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                                  Antares and Betelgeuse
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                                  Moon of Jupiter
                                6. 6D
                                  Title of R.E.M.'s rarities and B-sides collection (and then abbreviated)
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                                  Flood residues or spa supplies
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                                  Fruit with a stone
                                9. 9D
                                  Actress, ___ Margulies of "ER" and "The Good Wife"
                                10. 10D
                                  Actually
                                11. 11D
                                  City overlooked by the Pyramids of Red Square? (3)
                                12. 12D
                                  "___ go Bragh" (Ireland forever!)
                                13. 13D
                                  With 50 down: City known as the capital of Sumo Tlachtli? (6)
                                14. 18D
                                  "Equals" in Romanian
                                15. 22D
                                  Thanks To Original Uploader (abbr.)
                                16. 24D
                                  Gian Carlo Menotti's one act opera, "___ and the Night Visitors"
                                17. 26D
                                  43 across, for example
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                                  Country ranked last on the Global Peace Index from 2016 to 2018
                                19. 28D
                                  City known for its Opera House built on the Swan River? (2)
                                20. 29D
                                  Ann Arbor sch. which boasts Christine Lahti, Selma Blair, and Lucy Liu as alumni
                                21. 31D
                                  ___ Menzel, who sang "Let It Go"
                                22. 32D
                                  Professional Indian infantryman in the armies of the Mughal Empire
                                23. 35D
                                  Virgil's epic poem (var.)
                                24. 38D
                                  Remedies for every disease
                                25. 39D
                                  Jazz pianist Vince ___, whose trio did the music for "A Charlie Brown Christmas"
                                26. 41D
                                  Common typo made when one attempts to text the word "don't"
                                27. 42D
                                  Longest-running weekly comic-book
                                28. 44D
                                  Gaffer tape brand that has the same first four letters as the Asian pear
                                29. 46D
                                  ___ than a door nail
                                30. 48D
                                  Condescend
                                31. 50D
                                  See 13 down
                                32. 51D
                                  Crowd sound
                                33. 52D
                                  Tom Cruise and Emily Blunt film, "___ of Tomorrow"
                                34. 54D
                                  Lead singer of Radiohead, ___ Yorke
                                35. 55D
                                  Cyndi Lauper song, "___ After ___"
                                36. 56D
                                  Small bills
                                37. 59D
                                  The USA, to Macron
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