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Cryptic Attempt #1

· Di Probably Apocryphal · Pubblicato 2022-02-23T07:34:51.881Z

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  • Probably Apocryphal costruttore · 2022-02-23T07:36:04.428Z
    First go at a full (miniature-sized) cryptic. Criticism welcome
    • Mike D 2:08 · 2022-02-23T15:06:08.404Z
      Nice! I'm not too great at cryptics so I usually end up just revealing the grid and going through to see how they all worked. Some fun ones in here! I've never seen a word in the clue get split like indeed for DEFLATED - very clever. I almost wonder if that one should have an exclamation mark though since it seems the whole clue is both the def and the wordplay? But take that with a grain of salt like I said I'm no expert 😂
      • jasonwestley 🤓9:55 · 2022-02-23T21:14:10.669Z
        Nice puzzle. Plenty of good clueing. 15A made me laugh!
        • kieranjboyd 6:50 · 2022-02-23T22:31:27.867Z
          A great first cryptic! You should be proud!
          Here's my feedback as requested:
          Grid fill:
          • A nice classic UK-style grid, with a good mix of lengths. SHEL is a little obscure, but it did allow for the excellent ECHIDNAS and (very modern) LOL. I would've picked something else instead of FAUN (eg: FOUR, FLUB, etc.), but a bit of mythology is perfectly fine.
          Favourite clues:
          • 1A (although I'd seen your post in /r/crosswords, so I already knew the answer - this &lit needs an exclamation mark!), 4D, 9A, and 3D. Very fun!
          Cluing feedback:
          1. The crossword could maybe do with fewer anagram clues. Solvers can be very aware of anagrinds, so it can make solving a bit straight-forward. Try looking for other angles - they're always there if you search for them!
          2. Be careful not to define wordplay components using the same meaning as in the full answer. For example, in 6D, PRINT is defined as "writing", which (effectively) defines FINE PRINT. Better to find a different definition to provide another "in" to the solver (eg: "Excellent media ..."). (See also: DUE in 16D, and using RARE in 19A.)
          3. I would say that the clues are a little too "loose" at times. UK-style cryptics tend to be a bit more lax in this area, but they're mostly accurate in wordplay. For example, (from my understanding) the two parts of 16D's charade are reversed (DUE + OVER), and the wordplay order in 22A is a little confusing.
          4. Again, this is a stylistic thing that differs from setter to setter, but try limiting extraneous words in clues. For example, you can remove both "grow" from 12A and "by" from 17A without losing the surface. It's tricky to balance readability and solvability, but a good test is if you can clearly identify every word in a clue as 'definition' or 'wordplay', it will help solvers parse the clue. See here for exceptions: https://www.crosswordunclued.com/2009/07/connectors.html
          Hope that's all understandable and not too overwhelming. Writing cryptic crosswords is a daunting task, and you've made an excellent start!
          18D!
          • Probably Apocryphal costruttore · 2022-02-24T01:15:12.836Z
            Thanks for the feedback! I do appreciate it. It's hard to look objectively at your own clues, especially after a few hours of wracking your brain.
          1A
          Flat indeed! (8)
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          Orizzontali
          1. 1A
            Flat indeed! (8)
          2. 6A
            Fishy neighbor initially smuggles gold to Pan, e.g. (4)
          3. 8A
            Listen to the conch, it's a poet (4)
          4. 9A
            Theodore from ancient Peru uttered a magic spell (8)
          5. 10A
            Cadet due to be beaten and schooled (8)
          6. 12A
            Peas grow from soft, tilled sod (4)
          7. 13A
            Craven, spoiled, hollow (6)
          8. 15A
            Drunkard scarfs pork, spews like a faucet (6)
          9. 17A
            Feat ruined by destiny (4)
          10. 19A
            Rare it is, unusual, these curios (8)
          11. 21A
            Second-rate micronutrient? (7-1)
          12. 22A
            She's fit for a lord after mom removed illness (4)
          13. 23A
            We are wrapped in iron detonating cord (4)
          14. 24A
            Goes over wind-swept terraces (8)
          Verticali
          1. 2D
            Disgruntled, chained monotreme (7)
          2. 3D
            "You really think it means lots of love? You're so funny!" (3)
          3. 4D
            It isn't casual corruption (5)
          4. 5D
            Lothario goes to seed. Upset for years and years. (7)
          5. 6D
            Delicate writing, you better read it! (4,5)
          6. 7D
            End up bass-ackwards (5)
          7. 11D
            Lena, tipsy in Crete, to carve battlements (9)
          8. 14D
            More geeky about almost new tumble-drier (7)
          9. 16D
            Unpaid, late, and excessive (7)
          10. 18D
            Ida moves to the EU. "Farewell!" (5)
          11. 20D
            Drone boots first into admin user (5)
          12. 22D
            Clear, boundless valley (3)
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