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Sam's Sunday Cryptic LXXXV

· Di sammisamsam · Pubblicato 2024-09-08T04:36:21.918Z

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  • ash 🤓22:36 · 2024-09-08T14:07:43.556Z
    great as always! I particularly liked 7D, 24D, and 27A
    could I ask you to explain the cryptic for 14A?
    • sammisamsam costruttore · 2024-09-08T17:47:23.491Z
      Glad you enjoyed! 14A is a container clue, Koumbu[cha in s]ome is circling 'confines,' aka chains
      • ash 🤓22:36 · 2024-09-08T21:50:18.039Z
        oh my god now I feel stupid for not seeing it!! thanks for explaining :)
      • lukadisgre 🤓13:56 · 2024-09-08T18:21:08.834Z
        14A is a classic container. Kombu(cha, in s)ome circles, confines --> CHAINS
      • angusg 🤓15:52 · 2024-09-09T08:28:55.095Z
        Really smooth! Everything felt fair, I think
        • Womble 🤓23:59 · 2024-09-16T12:18:30.698Z
          Thank you, Sam. A really satisfying challenge!
          • Aaron Riccio 🤓1:41 · 2024-09-16T12:39:33.039Z
            First off, this is an impeccably filled grid--very nice flow, checks, and variety of entries. (Sorry it took me so long to get to it; my backlog of 15s is massive.)
            So far as cluing goes, I loved 11A, 13A, 18A, 28A, 18A, 15D, 17D, and my favorite, 20D.
            As for things I questioned:
            • A few of your anagram indicators, like the one in 12A, don't work for me. Saying [cueing disturbs] suggests that CUEING is doing something to something else, not itself having something done to it. See also 25A, with [precook order], which doesn't suggest a rearrangement, and 9D, where [Dance hall owner wowed] is smooth from a surface perspective, but only works in the future tense, as it's an imperative. [Dancing hall] obviously isn't as smooth, but is grammatically more sound (to me). (I also love the definition [an air of Jasmine?], but I do wonder if that's an accurate way to describe a duet. By contrast, 26A [Surprisingly obese cadet] is flawless and a really good surface!
            • I think a deletion indicator should be consecutive letters and in the same order; here you're deleting [-ington]. I suppose if you indicated that [noting] was being anagrammed, that'd be OK, but otherwise it seems like a stretch.
            • I love 7D, but I don't think I've ever (even in an &lit) seen an indicator include itself, as [initially] is doing. Just a thought!
            • sammisamsam costruttore · 2024-09-18T02:32:08.250Z
              Thanks for all the feedback, I really appreciate you taking the time to come back to this!
              For 7D, I absolutely see what you mean. I had some misgivings about whether or not I could do it. Do you think it would work better if the indicator was ALSO integral to the definition? In 7D 'initially' isn't adding anything definition, really
              I see your point about the tense of the anagram indicator, I think I do tend to err on the side of a smooth surface but that's something I'll think more about in future clues!
              TBH I've always been a bit confused about how deletion indicators work - I do think I've seen some published cryptics have deletion indicators working like I used here, simply indicating that you get rid of the letters in any order. But it's possible I'm misremembering, or I missed an anagram indicator when parsing those! Regardless I'll keep it in mind in the future.
              Always appreciate your detailed feedback, it's really helping me develop more discerning clues
            1A
            Latino at the edges of a Colombian city links neighborhoods (10)
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            Orizzontali
            1. 1A
              Latino at the edges of a Colombian city links neighborhoods (10)
            2. 6A
              Fellow crack (4)
            3. 10A
              Isn't able to initially stabilize slopes (5)
            4. 11A
              Once Spooner's poorest grocery store division (9)
            5. 12A
              Start to yell after cueing disturbs the last to finish? (4, 3)
            6. 13A
              Elegant but not good, large, or romantic (7)
            7. 14A
              Kombucha, in some circles, confines (6)
            8. 16A
              When to have an appointment in a news magazine's parking area? (4, 4)
            9. 18A
              Sheep reportedly eats jawless fish (8)
            10. 19A
              Relaxed, with it, and hot top (6)
            11. 22A
              Latin father goes back after Wisconsin bug (7)
            12. 23A
              Hid by half-destroyed Moscow hospital room with journalist (7)
            13. 25A
              Tommy, maybe, to precook order on the first two ranges (4, 5)
            14. 26A
              Ms. Moreno eats a dip from India (5)
            15. 27A
              Clean without noting a president (4)
            16. 28A
              Surprisingly obese cadet died (6, 2, 2)
            Verticali
            1. 1D
              Pithy Los Angles comedian exchanges name with Mark (7)
            2. 2D
              Legacy nicely restrains pessimist (5)
            3. 3D
              Those fighting in World War One mixed rotten gasoline (4, 10)
            4. 4D
              Psychedelic attire is evened out with unknown drug (3-3)
            5. 5D
              Euphoric, wild tactics follow European (8)
            6. 7D
              Hordes of indecent people offering lurid, licentious opinions, initially! (3, 6)
            7. 8D
              Looks to grotesque repeats (5, 2)
            8. 9D
              Dance hall owner wowed by an air of Jasmine? (1, 5, 3, 5)
            9. 15D
              Military competitions lead to violent massacre around river (4, 5)
            10. 17D
              Lens brings me harmony, or so I'm told (8)
            11. 18D
              Crude fight under shattered bowl (7)
            12. 20D
              Drink water to handle dry heat (7)
            13. 21D
              Canoes choppy seas (6)
            14. 24D
              Right to remove power and energy from broken iPhone charger? (5)
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