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Midi Cryptic 2

· By dilly · Published 2024-07-13T13:05:58.525Z

Constructor's Note
Tried a couple new things here: (1) I made it big (well, medium); and, (2) I revised clues that weren't working (crazy concept, I know). Hopefully the effort pays off, enjoy!
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  • dilly constructor · 2024-07-13T13:05:58.525Z
    1A: She’s one of two; [cha]INS (“characters...after the midway point”) in TWISTER
    7A: Friend; B-U-D homophone of “beauty” (“stunner”) when “speedreading aloud”
    8A: some leaves; [-tee]NAGER (“loses shirt”) in O[hi]O (“borders”) backwards
    9A: German region; BLACK (“dark”) + FOR + E[arly] S[ummer] T[ime]
    10A: a soft and sweet component; MARS (“God of war”) + ALL (“everyone”) in WHOM* (“strangely”)
    13A: Lawn care machine; ROT AREA (“compost pile?”) reversed
    14A: Pound; RAMPANT (“out of control”) - (“forgetting”) PANT (“what dogs do in heat”)
    16A: bit of green on top, maybe; heads of S[even] S[potted] S[alamanders] in GRATIN (“shallow dish”) with A
    1D: Key; TAB[le]
    2D: Country; homophone (“on the radio”) for INDIE (“music from a small label”) and YUH (“Ariana Grande’s noise”)
    3D: Supply of shots(?); SOT (“drunk”) reversed after STOCK (“canned” i.e. boilerplate) PHO (“soup”)
    4D: Ancient vegetarian who had plates; (RAGOUT SUES)* (“fishy”) + S[ervers]
    5D: duck; [luk]E + VADER - (“put aside”) [diffe]R[ences] (“essentially”)
    6D: Prostrate oneself before; homophone (“the preaching of”) COW + TAO
    9D: complain; DEMO (“song”) becomes BEMO (“first part taken down a few keys” i.e. key of D down to B) + capital letters (“big contingents”?) from A[ustin] and N[ashville]
    11D: more exquisite; RRR (“2022 Indian action film” - if you haven’t seen it I’m sorry: for the tough clue, & that you haven’t had the delightful experience) with second R unabbreviated (“expanded”) to ARE
    12D: Early stage; [p]LA[y] around (“features”) A + RV
    15D: troops; [e]NEM[y] in reverse
    • JWords 13:07 · 2024-07-14T15:27:49.130Z
      Nice puzzle, very clean surfaces and some really nice subversive indicators! Definitely on the tough side; I’d say 13A, 14A, 3D and 9D are very difficult. I really like a lot of them, highlights for me are 1A, 4D and 12D.
      Some quibbles/suggestions:
      7A: I think I like the idea, but in practice I found this unsolvable, plus the homophone really doesn’t work in my accent.
      9A: Nothing grammatically wrong here — just many setters find it stronger/more satisfying to break up words of the charade differently to the answer.
      10A: Not convinced by the definition, a MARSHMALLOW is definitely soft and sweet, but what is it a component of?
      13A: Not familiar with this as a lawn care tool, maybe because lawn care is much less of a big deal here in the UK ahah
      14A: Love the surface and nothing wrong with the construction, but having a subtraction of more letters than the final answer is really tough to solve.
      2D: Like the surface, but I don’t buy “yuh” as [Ariana Grande’s noise].
      9D: I don’t buy “demo” as [First part of a song], I think [Early version of song] would make just as much surface sense and is more precise and solvable. [Big contingents] is a really fun way to clue the capital letters!
      11D: Why does R expanded give ARE? Because they’re homophones? Because R is a texting abbreviation for ARE? I knew the film and got the answer from the definition but I still don’t buy the wordplay.
      Everything else I think is fair and I really like the surfaces across the board. Nice one!
      • dilly constructor · 2024-07-14T19:57:14.781Z
        Thanks for solving & quibbling! To respond to a few:
        I did end up rewriting a lot of clues wholesale in the revision process and I was this close to scrapping 7A. It may be debatable if the homophone really works in any accent lol.
        9A: I had never heard that before, but that makes sense. I had a really hard time coming up with a clue for that one.
        10A: Fair point, I think I had "component" as a synonym for "ingredient" that made the surface cleaner, but yeah, it doesn't share the same connotation of food
        13A: Yeah, unfortunately, I actually currently work in lawn care (and live in the US) so I am very familiar 🫠
        9D: The intended parse for this has DEMO ("song"), with D ("first part of song") changing to B ("taken down a few keys"). Not sure if something like [Song, with the first part taken down a few keys...] is a fairer way to clue this. Looking at it now, I don't know if the way "song" is introduced in the clue is valid in cryptic clues or not?
        Thanks again, this type of feedback is really helpful for me as I'm learning to write better clues, so I appreciate you taking the time to respond!
        • JWords 13:07 · 2024-07-15T06:04:16.746Z
          Ahh, I see, I misparsed 9D. I’m not wholly convinced that ‘song’ is enough for DEMO, I don’t think I’ve ever seen that without some kind of qualifier. Maybe my preferred version of the clue would be something like [Early version of song has its intro taken down a few keys, big contingents…], but it does turn a bit into word soup ahah. I think the way you have it is grammatically fine (in terms of the wordplay), assuming [song]=DEMO, but it is trickier to parse than if you had [‘Something clueing DEMO’ ‘take the first letter and change it’…]
          Very glad to give feedback, looking forward to seeing more!
      • Byron 🤓41:24 · 2024-08-06T20:40:13.335Z
        Really nice, except for 11D.
        1A
        She’s one of two characters in chains after the midway point in a disaster movie (4, 6)
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        Across
        1. 1A
          She’s one of two characters in chains after the midway point in a disaster movie (4, 6)
        2. 7A
          Friend who’s a stunner when speed reading letters out loud? (3)
        3. 8A
          Teenager loses shirt within Ohio’s borders, goes back to get some leaves (7)
        4. 9A
          German region is dark for early summer time, at first (5, 6)
        5. 10A
          God of war in whom, strangely, everyone finds a soft and sweet component (11)
        6. 13A
          Lawn care machine turned over compost pile? (7)
        7. 14A
          Pound is out of control, forgetting what dogs do in heat (3)
        8. 16A
          Put the heads of seven spotted salamanders in a shallow dish, then add a bit of green on top, maybe (5, 5)
        Down
        1. 1D
          Key part of table (3)
        2. 2D
          Country music from a small label and Ariana Grande’s noise both on the radio (5)
        3. 3D
          Supply of shots drunk up after canned soup? (5, 6)
        4. 4D
          Ancient vegetarian who had plates of fishy ragout sues one of servers (11)
        5. 5D
          Finally, Luke and Vader put aside differences, essentially, to make duck (5)
        6. 6D
          Prostrate oneself before the preaching of bovine philosophy (6)
        7. 9D
          First part of song is taken down a few keys, big contingents of Austin and Nashville complain (6)
        8. 11D
          2022 Indian action film gets expanded second part, making it more exquisite (5)
        9. 12D
          Early stage play’s center part features a camper (5)
        10. 15D
          Enemy holds back troops (3)
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